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What is Rake?

PUCPOUNDPUCPOUND Member Posts: 397
edited December 2010 in Poker Chat
Apart from something to tidy up leaves !  what is "rake" I hear it mentioned, I heard LOLUFOLD mention it as a reason for not going head to head with evenly matched players, he said the rake is the only winner ?  I no understand !
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    the rake is the fee that Sky take from every cash pot played.

    ie hes saying that he and player XYZ are so evenly matched that in the long run that Sky only benefits from them playing
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited December 2010
    rake is paid to the house aka sky poker....percentage of the pot is paid but is also capped at certain amounts. heads up is different you have to pay rake every hand since ur gonna be in every hand, if you get 2 opponents in a stale mate situation rake would dwindle their stacks without them making sufficient return on investment 
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  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    rake is paid to the house aka sky poker....percentage of the pot is paid but is also capped at certain amounts. heads up is different you have to pay rake every hand since ur gonna be in every hand, if you get 2 opponents in a stale mate situation rake would dwindle their stacks without them making sufficient return on investment 
    Posted by WHOAMI196
    Even worse with omaha cash
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited December 2010
    But playing a poor player rake should not be a problem or players worse than you to put it in a nicer way!!
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  • Die_hardDie_hard Member Posts: 338
    edited December 2010
    Is Sky the ONLY site (out of hundreds) that doesn't have rakeback deals?
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    cash for points is hte same thing tbf

    and there aren't hundreds of poker sites.  there are about a dozen with hundreds piggy backing with a skin
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    Is Sky the ONLY site (out of hundreds) that doesn't have rakeback deals?
    Posted by Die_hard
    Sky Poker offers Cash For Points which is essentially the same thing.

    I can think of at least one site that doesn't offer either.
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  • PUCPOUNDPUCPOUND Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2010
    I have never noticed a % of cash pots going to the house ? have to look out fo it next time I play cash ! just pleased to win a cash hand now and then LOL !
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    In Response to Re: What is Rake? : Sky Poker offers Cash For Points which is essentially the same thing. I can think of at least one site that doesn't offer either.
    Posted by MereNovice
    And people still play there?  Wow!
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  • Ploppy33Ploppy33 Member Posts: 721
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    I have never noticed a % of cash pots going to the house ? have to look out fo it next time I play cash ! just pleased to win a cash hand now and then LOL !
    Posted by PUCPOUND
    If u raise to say 50p & get 1 caller u would expect there to be £1 in middle (assuming u & oppo r the blinds) - if u look at the pot will be something like 95p in there - 5p to Sky
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  • PUCPOUNDPUCPOUND Member Posts: 397
    edited December 2010
    feel a bit of a numpty for not knowing ! as said before just happy to win what ever i win on cash ! how does it work in a live game then ?
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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    feel a bit of a numpty for not knowing ! as said before just happy to win what ever i win on cash ! how does it work in a live game then ?
    Posted by PUCPOUND

    You'll need to change your name to PUC95p now  :o)

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  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    Is Sky the ONLY site (out of hundreds) that doesn't have rakeback deals?
    Posted by Die_hard
    No rakeback is financial suicide. Entirely mindless. Most poker players can't beat the rake. Ever.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited December 2010
    i take it then, a positive roi on sharkscope and a negitive profit would be down to rake then?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2010

    A pain in the bum.
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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    i take it then, a positive roi on sharkscope and a negitive profit would be down to rake then?
    Posted by pod1
    No, not at all.
    Sharkscope doesn't reflect cash games.


    That would be due to the way that Sharkscope represents those figures - see the site for precise details.
    It just reflects the fact that you have won more often in lower buy-in tournaments.

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  • sikassikas Member Posts: 857
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    i take it then, a positive roi on sharkscope and a negitive profit would be down to rake then?
    Posted by pod1

    playing 1 or 2 really high-stakes games compared to the rest of your games (that you are +ROI% in) and losing, which would drop your profits alot.

    Example-

    Play 100 £5 sngs with a ROI% of 50%, so you'd be +£250
    Go play a £500 buyin sng and lose, which would only drop your ROI% a small margin, but drop your profits to -£250.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    In Response to Re: What is Rake? : playing 1 or 2 really high-stakes games compared to the rest of your games (that you are +ROI% in) and losing, which would drop your profits alot. Example- Play 100 £5 sngs with a ROI% of 50%, so you'd be +£250 Go play a £500 buyin sng and lose, which would only drop your ROI% a small margin, but drop your profits to -£250.
    Posted by sikas

    Hey that doesnt make too much sense to me can you put in simple terms for us simpletons ty
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited December 2010

    haaaaaaaaaa really young gun????

    That's about as simple as it gets!!!!

    No wonder you're a **** receptionist :) loooooooool
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: What is Rake?:
    haaaaaaaaaa really young gun???? That's about as simple as it gets!!!! No wonder you're a **** receptionist :) loooooooool
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    I sort of do understand but i dont :p
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