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Is this too nitty

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic
OK just moved to this table £5.50 BI £250 GTD mtt. Early blind levels and i see QQ here and think wooo. PLayer raise and im still thinking of 3-betting. Then button shoves. Changes my whole thought process. Opinions (without reads)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceThe_Don90Small blind 15.0015.001925.00 Big blind 30.0045.001040.00 Your hole cardsQQ    Fold     Raise 150.00195.002620.00 Call 150.00345.001750.00All-in 2200.002545.000.00The_Don90Fold   
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  • HYPETINGHYPETING Member Posts: 253
    edited December 2010
    Not nitty at all. No need to risk whole stack so early on even if villain has AK, and obv worse, AA or KK. Good fold Don.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    i cant hit the call button quick enough
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    I'd call tbh unless button is super nit
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    I don't think a fold is that bad tbf given the early level tbf.


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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:
    I don't think a fold is that bad tbf given the early level tbf.
    Posted by scotty77

    tbf ftw  :p
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited December 2010
    Tbf ;) If I was in a good mood it would of been a fold, but if it was a bad mood id call!


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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    TBF i would have nightmares if i folded this TBF
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  • TalonTalon Member Posts: 1,621
    edited December 2010
     In this situation with no reads and at this stage of the tourny for me this is a standard fold. There has been a raise a call and a 3-bet shove in front of you so those ladies would seem to be diminishing in value all the time.


      It is very hard without reads to put the button on a hand at all. It could easily be AK, AQ or any pocket pair, or even just a squeeze play to hoover up the chips. But for me i want to be the aggressor in any given situation and calling for my tourny life. It is very early and you have plenty of chips and with the original raiser still left to act i can not see the merit in risking it all at this time especially since you only have the sb invested. KK in this spot would be different with only the 1 overcard available and i would be snap calling.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:
    TBF In this situation with no reads and at this stage of the tourny for me this is a standard fold. There has been a raise a call and a 3-bet shove in front of you so those ladies would seem to be diminishing in value all the time.   It is very hard without reads to put the button on a hand at all. It could easily be AK, AQ or any pocket pair, or even just a squeeze play to hoover up the chips. But for me i want to be the aggressor in any given situation and calling for my tourny life. It is very early and you have plenty of chips and with the original raiser still left to act i can not see the merit in risking it all at this time especially since you only have the sb invested. KK in this spot would be different with only the 1 overcard available and i would be snap calling TBF.
    Posted by Talon

    FYP TBF disagree with your point though
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    tbh i don't like all this mick taking tbf.  plz stop tyvm xxxx
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    fwiw i have to agree with scotty tbf
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited December 2010
    You have to put the villian on a least AK at this stage why do you want to race for your torny life, you have very little invested wait for a better spot good fold m8! TBF TBH & IMO

    PS Im a donk and would have called!
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited December 2010
    It is a bit nitty BUT by no means a bad fold a good fold to avoid a flip for sure. But great opportunity to double ur stack, me being me id rather take chances early on than chancing of being blinded out in the latter stages of the tourney.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    'i see QQ here and think wooo. '


    Sick good strat.


    innit.


    oh and fold now whilst having your neck spazm and you shouting out swear words like a tourette sufferer.
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  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited December 2010
    I made this call yesterday withh QQ with a raise, call & a shove before me and my pocket queens never held - Now can anyone tell me where that fold button is please?

    Over the last few days my QQ has lost every race, but if I keep putting them in a race on the wrong starting line, I am nearly always going to finish last (I have learnt my lesson)
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: Is this too nitty:
    I made this call yesterday withh QQ with a raise, call & a shove before me and my pocket queens never held - Now can anyone tell me where that fold button is please? Over the last few days my QQ has lost every race, but if I keep putting them in a race on the wrong starting line, I am nearly always going to finish last (I have learnt my lesson)
    Posted by POKERTREV

    It's on the left sir.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited December 2010
    Thanks all for your responces. I will now post results to show this wasnt result orientaited at all. I just thought looking back i should have bust here (P.S. I went on to come 4th busting the shover in the exact same situation 3 cirlces laters that time i had KK though)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceThe_Don90 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1925.00 BBBig blind  30.00 45.00 1040.00   Your hole cards Q Q       UTGFold     Origional RaiseRaise  150.00 195.00 2620.00 CallerCall  150.00 345.00 1750.00 ShoverAll-in  2200.00 2545.00 0.00 The_Don90 Fold     BBAll-in  1040.00 3585.00 0.00 Origional RaiseFold     CallerAll-in  1750.00 5335.00 0.00 ShoverUnmatched bet  300.00 5035.00 300.00 BBShow K A    CallerShow 5 6    ShoverShow K A    Flop    9 J 8       Turn    4       River    A       BBWin Pair of Aces 1687.50  1687.50 ShoverWin Pair of Aces 3347.50  3647.50


    Very odd hand. 56 i have no idea, also to confirm this was a £5.50 freezeout - non bounty. So i dont get that call at all.
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  • silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
    edited December 2010
    The 56 called cos they were sooted :)

    fwiw, I think you could make an argument for calling & folding in this spot & if I'm not on life tilt & fully concentrating then I think I'm probably swearing lots & waiting for the timer to fold for me in this spot.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited December 2010
    No its not too nitty!

    Its a good fold TBF!:)
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  • shelskishelski Member Posts: 467
    edited December 2010
    no.
    i think you know this already.
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