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deep in primo/total butchered hand-any logic?

Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
edited December 2010 in The Poker Clinic
alright im totally convinced ive butchered this hand infact played it absolutly awful - but wud like some feedback to see if any of my logic makes sense lol.

ok so its deep in primo 22 left i think.

im always bangin on about never limpin (so surprised myself with this!) but for some reason because of the flat call utg i just couldnt find the raise button. foldin entered my mind, but decided to probably make the worst move of the 3 & complete.

dunno y i did it coz as soon as i complete i expect the squeeze & it happens & when the utg limper folds (my main concern) i decide to shove. so as bad as this is because im reppin absolutly nothin as my shove got any logic? have i any fold equity? he cud make this move with 'any 2' right? or am i just drunk?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Eagle26 Small blind  1000.00 1000.00 25437.50
katiegir16 Big blind  2000.00 3000.00 46900.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • Q
     
reckastow Call  2000.00 5000.00 30799.10
Nutter5932 Fold     
CoxyLboro Fold     
Eagle26 Call  1000.00 6000.00 24437.50
katiegir16 Raise  6000.00 12000.00 40900.00
reckastow Fold     
Eagle26 All-in  24437.50 36437.50 0.00
katiegir16 Call  18437.50 54875.00 22462.50
Eagle26 Show
  • J
  • Q
   
katiegir16 Show
  • A
  • Q
   
Flop
   
  • 7
  • 9
  • 3
     
Turn
   
  • 9
     
River
   
  • 8
     
katiegir16 Win Pair of 9s 54875.00  77337.50
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited December 2010
    you have FE

    I've just played that player on the last 2 tables of Primo.  You are probably ahead of their range IMO and I would expect this to get thru a decent amount of the time.


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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited December 2010
    if you raised and they reraised, what would do then ??
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited December 2010
    katiegirl16 is getting 2/1 vs a shove repping nothing you have No FE and i wouldnt need AQ to make the call
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  • HartshorNHartshorN Member Posts: 616
    edited December 2010
    Fold pre
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited December 2010
    I dont think the call here is bad with utg caller and you have QJ, after raise i would fold dont like the all in

    I agree with the thread title, but well played to get that far
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    Eagle your rubbish.


    The decision is whether to jam the small blind or fold. Don't complete and if you do you want to fold when raised........
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  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: deep in primo/total butchered hand-any logic?:
    Eagle your rubbish. The decision is whether to jam the small blind or fold. Don't complete and if you do you want to fold when raised........
    Posted by beaneh
    lol your price just gone up now after seein this hand?

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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    Might go down with the sympathy card! lawl
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  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: deep in primo/total butchered hand-any logic?:
    Might go down with the sympathy card! lawl
    Posted by beaneh

    cool, ive got loads of hands i played last night that were a total train wreck, ill dig em out put em all together & send em ya ;-) you will be givin me money!
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited December 2010
    In Response to Re: deep in primo/total butchered hand-any logic?:
    In Response to Re: deep in primo/total butchered hand-any logic? : cool, ive got loads of hands i played last night that were a total train wreck, ill dig em out put em all together & send em ya ;-) you will be givin me money!
    Posted by Eagle26


    mmm I cant wait to receive your pm how exciting....... you'll be lucky to get a response lol
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  • Eagle26Eagle26 Member Posts: 431
    edited December 2010

    i was bein sarcastic. bein the awesome player i am this woz the only hand i found i played bad ;-)  just out of curiosity what do u do in this spot anyway?-shove or fold?

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  • sharkcjsharkcj Member Posts: 25
    edited December 2010
    almost as if you knew what was going to happen in this hand, you cannot complete in sb here due to blinds you have to shove or fold pre, personally i would shove with less than qj so i would shove with ur hand just unlucky he had AQ. wp to get so far
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  • JulieJayJulieJay Member Posts: 10
    edited December 2010
    I don't like the shove over the raise unless you have a solid read they are bullying. Otherwise I give them credit and fold. You still have a decent stack compared to everyone else.

    Preflop: I don't see the problem with completing pre. You have a decent starting hand and probably get in half price. What's the problem with it? Fold and shove are OK too though I'd ideally like a read on the limper before shoving pre.
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  • Small_DogSmall_Dog Member Posts: 180
    edited December 2010
    I think Katiegirls stack size is important here when you are contemplating the shove

    id she is well stack she always makes the call for 18 more and with JQ you are hoping to be racing at best

    dont mind the limp in to see a flop from the small blind but i would fold to the raise
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