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simples, call or fold ( my final decision )

spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
early stages off deepstack

Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
pod1 Small blind   10.00 10.00 4630.00
spornybol Big blind   20.00 30.00 4800.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • 4
     
TAEFMAN Fold        
DOHHHHHHH Fold        
s Call   20.00 50.00 4560.00
stackmeup1 Fold        
pod1 Call   10.00 60.00 4620.00
spornybol Check        
Flop
   
  • J
  • 7
  • 10
     
pod1 Bet   45.00 105.00 4575.00
spornybol Call   45.00 150.00 4755.00
s Raise   90.00 240.00 4470.00
pod1 Raise   330.00 570.00 4245.00
spornybol Raise   1230.00 1800.00 3525.00
s All-in   4470.00 6270.00 0.00
pod1 Fold        
spornybol
          
           
           

           

           
           
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited January 2011
    sorry had to bump up, as someone switched my post off so no-one could see what i have done
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    edited January 2011

    tough decision this early in a deepstack, i would only be worried about the villain having the ace as 89 clubs would be very unlikely there and if he did have it i doubt he would shove on the flop.

    i think more likely he has a set, 2 pair or maybe a smaller flush and he doesnt want anyone with flush draw to call, all things considered i think i would call and if he has the ace and hits gl to him

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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    yay we have 5 clubs



    I REPEAT FIVE CLUBS YAY

    ARREEEEEEN
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2011

    I snap call, if he's flopped the nut flush or straight flush then so be it, I just put it down to one of those things and move onto the next tournament. 

    There's no way you can realisticly put him on only 8c9c or AcXc. He would probably play slowly with hands like that, not suddenly go all aggresive on you.

    There are many other holdings in his range; the nut flush draw, two pair, a set, a made off-suit straight, top pair with the nut flush draw, a lower flush. If you are ahead around 40% or more of the time (you are) then it's a good call and +ev.

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  • hurst05hurst05 Member Posts: 1,567
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    yay we have 5 clubs I REPEAT FIVE CLUBS YAY ARREEEEEEN
    Posted by beaneh
    chase the 6th club imo
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : chase the 6th club imo
    Posted by hurst05
    and the back door royal flush
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : and the back door royal flush
    Posted by Mohican
    BACK DOOR ROYAL FLUSH ?? DON`T THINK SO, I HAVE THE K CLUBS
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2011
    wouldnt give credit to people being able to fold a worse flush here so i call!
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : BACK DOOR ROYAL FLUSH ?? DON`T THINK SO, I HAVE THE K CLUBS
    Posted by spornybol
    turn and river come QcAc and what does that give you?
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  • dargandargan Member Posts: 29
    edited January 2011
    In Response to simples, call or fold:
    early stages off deepstack Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance pod1 Small blind   10.00 10.00 4630.00 spornybol Big blind   20.00 30.00 4800.00   Your hole cards K 4       TAEFMAN Fold         DOHHHHHHH Fold         s Call   20.00 50.00 4560.00 stackmeup1 Fold         pod1 Call   10.00 60.00 4620.00 spornybol Check         Flop     J 7 10       pod1 Bet   45.00 105.00 4575.00 spornybol Call   45.00 150.00 4755.00 s Raise   90.00 240.00 4470.00 pod1 Raise   330.00 570.00 4245.00 spornybol Raise   1230.00 1800.00 3525.00 s All-in   4470.00 6270.00 0.00 pod1 Fold         spornybol                                                                      
    Posted by spornybol
    you was right to fold some peeps will call with ace X so i think he hand ace x clubes thats why he went all in so well done for the fold

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    Never folding here especially in a deepy, unless you have super read

    if i got this 100 times i doubt i'd fold 1 time

    SHIP IT
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold : turn and river come QcAc and what does that give you?
    Posted by Mohican
    thought you were talkin bout oppo - sorry
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited January 2011
    i did not put them on a ace fush draw, had them on two pair or pair with flush draw but nope oh well

    Hand History #325317600 (14:31 03/01/2011)

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    pod1 Small blind   10.00 10.00 4630.00
    spornybol Big blind   20.00 30.00 4800.00
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • 4
    		     
    TAEFMAN Fold        
    DOHHHHHHH Fold        
    sa Call   20.00 50.00 4560.00
    stackmeup1 Fold        
    pod1 Call   10.00 60.00 4620.00
    spornybol Check        
    Flop
       
    • J
    • 7
    • 10
    		     
    pod1 Bet   45.00 105.00 4575.00
    spornybol Call   45.00 150.00 4755.00
    sa Raise   90.00 240.00 4470.00
    pod1 Raise   330.00 570.00 4245.00
    spornybol Raise   1230.00 1800.00 3525.00
    sa All-in   4470.00 6270.00 0.00
    pod1 Fold        
    spornybol Call   3285.00 9555.00 240.00
    spornybol Show
    • K
    • 4
    		     
    sa Show
    • 8
    • 9
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 3
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    sa Win Straight Flush to the Jack 9555.00   9555.00
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited January 2011
    ARRRRAGGGGGGHHHHHHHH

    SOOOO Unlucky mate.

    Happened to me on the bubble of a £2K Live game at my local casino.  ONly I had the Ace flush so it was a tad more annoying.

    Still you were right to call.  Folding King HIgh Flushes on the flop you'll end up losing too many winning positions.... IMHO  
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: simples, call or fold:
    tough decision this early in a deepstack, i would only be worried about the villain having the ace as 89 clubs would be very unlikely there and if he did have it i doubt he would shove on the flop. i think more likely he has a set, 2 pair or maybe a smaller flush and he doesnt want anyone with flush draw to call, all things considered i think i would call and if he has the ace and hits gl to him
    Posted by waller02
    shows what i know!!!! vul mate
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