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explain please..

iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
xx Small blind  150.00 150.00 2805.00
iBLUFF Big blind  300.00 450.00 6295.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • A
     
seaford2 Fold     
blackjac22 Call  300.00 750.00 2540.00
terry1958 Fold     
xx Call  150.00 900.00 2655.00
iBLUFF Raise  900.00 1800.00 5395.00
blackjac22 Fold     
xx Call  900.00 2700.00 1755.00
Flop
   
  • K
  • 3
  • Q
     
xx All-in  1755.00 4455.00 0.00
iBLUFF Call  1755.00 6210.00 3640.00
xx Show
  • K
  • 6
   
iBLUFF Show
  • J
  • A
   
Turn
   
  • 6
     
River
   
  • 4
     
xx Win Two Pairs, Kings and 6s 6210.00  6210.00
how on earth can he call? and b4 u say it i havnt played more than 5hands in the tourney b4 this.. so how can he call that? obv im not gonna fold but no still they call and hope to hit magic flops.And i no its called varinace but just seem to happen to me all the time.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited January 2011
    because he wants to.

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  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited January 2011
    In Response to explain please..:
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance shaybricky Small blind   150.00 150.00 2805.00 iBLUFF Big blind   300.00 450.00 6295.00   Your hole cards J A       seaford2 Fold         blackjac22 Call   300.00 750.00 2540.00 terry1958 Fold         shaybricky Call   150.00 900.00 2655.00 iBLUFF Raise   900.00 1800.00 5395.00 blackjac22 Fold         shaybricky Call   900.00 2700.00 1755.00 Flop     K 3 Q       shaybricky All-in   1755.00 4455.00 0.00 iBLUFF Call   1755.00 6210.00 3640.00 shaybricky Show K 6       iBLUFF Show J A       Turn     6       River     4       shaybricky Win Two Pairs, Kings and 6s 6210.00   6210.00 how on earth can I call? and b4 u say it i havnt played more than 5hands in the tourney b4 this.. so how can he call that? obv im not gonna fold but no still they call and hope to hit magic flops.And i no its called varinace but just seem to happen to me all the time. And no its not coz of my name aswell. 
    Posted by iBLUFF
    FYP
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited January 2011
    I would of let it go on that flop.
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    In Response to explain please.. : FYP
    Posted by JingleMa
    i was never going to fold for 1.7k into 5-6k odd
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    because he wants to.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
     lol_raise.. i wanted to no what u think of his call, my play etc.. tbh saying because he wants to isnt a answere imo
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    I would of let it go on that flop.
    Posted by donkeyplop
    it was 1.7k into 6k ,,this was a bh semi into the 15k bh tomorow so i feel if i call this and win my seat would be secure as there was about 25left at this time and top 10 got seat
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited January 2011
    Got to fold flop. Id just put him all in preflop. He only has 10BBs
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    Got to fold flop. Id just put him all in preflop. He only has 10BBs
    Posted by 5toneFace
    yh i think i should set him in pre but if hes gonna call 900 hes gonna call the all in.. as for the flop like i have said its 1.7k into 6k and this would seel my place into bh.. knowing that do u still fold? thanks
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited January 2011

    You have the right odds against his hand. (just) But he could have you crushed. Or a hand your worse against, EG K10, Q10, 2 pair, sets.
    And you could have best hand. Eg, he could have a draw, complete air.
    So its pretty tight. Id prob fold and wait for better spot to get my 9bbs in

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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    In Response to Re: explain please.. : yh i think i should set him in pre but if hes gonna call 900 hes gonna call the all in.. as for the flop like i have said its 1.7k into 6k and this would seel my place into bh.. knowing that do u still fold? thanks
    Posted by iBLUFF
    You want him to call in pre flop. Blind on blind he calls with worse hands. Thats the aim of the game. Get your money in with the best hand
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    You have the right odds against his hand. (just) But he could have you crushed. Or a hand your worse against, EG K10, Q10, 2 pair, sets. And you could have best hand. Eg, he could have a draw, complete air. So its pretty tight. Id prob fold and wait for better spot to get my 9bbs in
    Posted by 5toneFace
    thanks for the advice, at least someone took my post seriously ;)
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    And also how to deal with varinace play through it or take a break?
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited January 2011
    I play through it when I know im playing fine and not tilted. If I feel I played bad aswell as run bad, (eg from tilt) I'll take a break. 1 or 2 days off.

    My advice would be take a break tho. Make sure you wipe all the past out your head. Winning at poker is long term. Everyone has a bad run, play bad, run bad. But that has no effect on what happens after. So just got to get over it. ASAP!! Treat every session as a fresh start.
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  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited January 2011

    You had to call 1755 into a pot of 4455 which with your hand on that flop is a bad call imo. I agree with 5toneface, shove pre if you were never going to fold any flop.

    I would take a break to avoid tilt.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited January 2011
    he did have the right odds. 1755:4455 ~ 28% pot odds, And he has 7 outs ~ 31% (from pokerstove) So does have odds to call.

    I just realised you had 5400 if you folded. 18bbs. That makes me want to fold. Wait for less marginal situation
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    against these stacks in a sat then its a fairly easy ship.

    no point raising and seeing a flop OOP against guys with less than 10bb each
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited January 2011

    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    against these stacks in a sat then its a fairly easy ship. no point raising and seeing a flop OOP against guys with less than 10bb each
    Posted by scotty77
    Can't agree more. If you're going to be pot comitted post flop, just shove and put them to the decision.Punish the limpers. If they still want to call the All in with K6 suited,even better as you're ahead.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    I think your raise is fine, post flop terribad mate

    you dont hit and get shoved on just fold, especially in a satelite maybe even consider flatting pre as early limper and AJ is not that great. also regardless what they call with that does not matter you need to look at your own game, as for his call its suited so the nuts :p


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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited January 2011
    if you reread your OP you said "explain please...how can he make this call"
    and i explained that he wanted to.

    if you had mentioned anything about your own play in the OP then i would have replied to that.


    shove pre. how tilted i am depends on whether i call or fold flop.
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: explain please..:
    if you reread your OP you said "explain please...how can he make this call" and i explained that he wanted to. if you had mentioned anything about your own play in the OP then i would have replied to that. shove pre. how tilted i am depends on whether i call or fold flop.
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    thanks lol_raise just ignore me i was having a rant at his appauling call pre but its all good now
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