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Jacks Pre-flop??

furberfurber Member Posts: 16
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
When this play gets back round to you what is the best course of action? Is it a good idea at any time to push all in? In the end i ended up gettin busted by AA after a low flop.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
winers Small blind £0.10 £0.10 £23.42
furber Big blind £0.20 £0.30 £23.27
  Your hole cards ·         J ·         J      
alfarch Raise £0.80 £1.10 £8.48
hammer810 Fold
TWOSRGOOD Fold
hector45 Fold
knuckler Call £0.80 £1.90 £16.85
Dubbs22 Fold
AyrGraeme Call £0.80 £2.70 £28.13
winers Fold     
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011
    The guy who opens has 42 big blinds.

    Re-raise pre flop, and stack off against him when he shoves.

    The dead money in the middle makes it a good move against AK AQ KQ, he will stack off probably with 10 10, 9 9 too. 

    The other guys will fold most of the time.


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  • HartshorNHartshorN Member Posts: 616
    edited January 2011
    Personally i'd make this 3 squiddledinks.
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  • furberfurber Member Posts: 16
    edited January 2011
    What i ended up doing was pushing all in but got called with AA. Is this the right move in the long run?
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  • HartshorNHartshorN Member Posts: 616
    edited January 2011
    Probably not. If you 3 bet, and then get 4bet you can then put someone on an overpair and lay the jacks down.

    Pushing all in youll probably only get called by on overpair or AK/AQ so your at best flipping.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited January 2011
    if you 3bet to £3 to cant fold when he ships it for £8.50 total
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    Its cash u only have 3 hands beating u pre and racing 2 more hands, if ur going to re-raise u have to call any shove so ur all pre in dont seem that bad to me even though u ran into AA.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited January 2011
    since when did DOHHHH start posting good advice :(


    bring back beaneh v DOHHH wars
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  • OMahonyOOMahonyO Member Posts: 1,883
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop??:
    since when did DOHHHH start posting good advice :(bring back beaneh v DOHHH wars
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop??:
    Its cash u only have 3 hands beating u pre and racing 3 more hands, if ur going to re-raise u have to call any shove so ur all pre in dont seem that bad to me even though u ran into AA.
    Posted by waynecure
    FWIW i agree with dohhhh.

    Wanye ive fixed ur post.
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited January 2011
    if the opener had been raising light I would fwee bet - probs about 3.50.

    I would consider flatting if he was super tight. Not really fun if you bump it up, get like 2 callers and the flop is K Q x or A hi.
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop??:
    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop?? : FWIW i agree with dohhhh. Wanye ive fixed ur post.
    Posted by The_Don90
    A senior moment m8 KQ makes three
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011

    +1 to bring back Dohhhhhh vs Beaneh wars!

    They are fun!

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011

    He couldn't handle the pressure and backed down !

    I am willing to defend my crown, name a time, and a post, and I'll be there. 

     x x x
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop??:
    since when did DOHHHH start posting good advice :( bring back LOGIC v DOHHH wars
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    Fixed your post obv.

    In Response to Re: Jacks Pre-flop??:
    I couldn't handle the pressure and backed down ! xx
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH



    Fixed yours too. You know where to find me :-p
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    OP if you are willing to bet the amount of the openers stack then re-raise and don't fold. If you're not then flat call. Jamming folds out all the hands that you have good equity against, you are now only really being called by stronger hands. Bad times.
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited January 2011
    Three bet, call shove, click reload.

    Sometimes they have the top end of their range.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    TommyD, Dohhhh & Co are all correct. no need to shove pre as your missing out on some good value

    +1 Beanhead v Dohhhh
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