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The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.

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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : I disagree. There are many players on that list who I share a table with regularly and wonder how they ever have chips. A lot of players make money playing Sky mtt's with a terrible game. Fwiw SB was -4 figs til he locked his stats. E iz nooo good.  There are a few really good players in this 30 who I'd happily see in TSP, but the others would get ruined in the Cash 30 imo.
    Posted by pryce6

    I agree with this but didnt want to mention names etc. but i wont go into it further obviously as they still put the volume in and best of luck to them
  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : I disagree. There are many players on that list who I share a table with regularly and wonder how they ever have chips. A lot of players make money playing Sky mtt's with a terrible game. Fwiw SB was -4 figs til he locked his stats. E iz nooo good.  There are a few really good players in this 30 who I'd happily see in TSP, but the others would get ruined in the Cash 30 imo.
    Posted by pryce6
    Fair enough, but the 117 MTT sample I have are all fairly recent, in those he has multiple final tables and a big positive ROI.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : Fair enough, but the 117 MTT sample I have are all fairly recent, in those he has multiple final tables and a big positive ROI.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    Yea i dont think anyones saying hes not got a record but lets face it theres alot better on that list. I watched him in a deepstack. FT 6 players left 5 get paid. We're on the bubble. Your man min raised UTG folded to a min re-raise that put him all in, which anyone was doing if they were calling because it meant they where commited anyways. Hes BB next hand and goes out.

    Oddest move ive ever seen in poker. Having said that maybe theres logic init,.
  • FlashFlushFlashFlush Member Posts: 4,494
    edited January 2011
    Some very good MTT players in this field but equally some VERY bad one's. This league shows how quantity can out-weigh quality. (The good reg MTT players will know who I mean).

    I would like to see Scotty take it down but not sure if he has the patience in a structure like this.

    other 2 picks would be Solack and Thetank
  • Small_DogSmall_Dog Member Posts: 180
    edited January 2011
    what is this tournament? when is it? can anyone enter?
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    what is this tournament? when is it? can anyone enter?
    Posted by Small_Dog
    you have to qualify ove r a 3 month period with league points.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : you have to qualify ove r a 3 month period with league points.
    Posted by The_Don90

    very detailed explanation very impressed donny ;)


    right small doggy as don has said its a league over 3 months, which the last one has just finished.

    The top 30 for each dicipline eg. cash/MTT/ STT all get entry into a tournament . so for each dicipline there is a final and the top3 get onto team sky poker for 3 months, where they can earn additional rake &/or(im unsure) can play live events by being sponsored by sky. for full details have a look at promotions.

    Kind regards
    John
  • Small_DogSmall_Dog Member Posts: 180
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : very detailed explanation very impressed donny ;) right small doggy as don has said its a league over 3 months, which the last one has just finished. The top 30 for each dicipline eg. cash/MTT/ STT all get entry into a tournament . so for each dicipline there is a final and the top3 get onto team sky poker for 3 months, where they can earn additional rake &/or(im unsure) can play live events by being sponsored by sky. for full details have a look at promotions. Kind regards John
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Thanks a lot young gun and don
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    Some very good MTT players in this field but equally some VERY bad one's. This league shows how quantity can out-weigh quality. (The good reg MTT players will know who I mean). I would like to see Scotty take it down but not sure if he has the patience in a structure like this. other 2 picks would be Solack and Thetank
    Posted by FlashFlush

    I need a double up by level 7!

    If I don't get one by that level, then yes the patience will go out of the window :o)

    weeeeeeeeeeeeee
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : I disagree. There are many players on that list who I share a table with regularly and wonder how they ever have chips. A lot of players make money playing Sky mtt's with a terrible game. Fwiw SB was -4 figs til he locked his stats. E iz nooo good.  There are a few really good players in this 30 who I'd happily see in TSP, but the others would get ruined in the Cash 30 imo.
    Posted by pryce6

    I agree with this tbf.

    Only half a dozen from the MTT list would have any kind of decent chance in the cash one.

    Same goes for STT players.

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : I agree with this tbf. Only half a dozen from the MTT list would have any kind of decent chance in the cash one. Same goes for STT players.
    Posted by scotty77
    +1
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited January 2011

    my view is like this

    1   given that the top cash players are, as a group, better than the top mtt players
    2   if top cash players played top mtt players at cash tables the cash players would win
    3   if top cash players played top mtt players in a mtt the cash players might not win
    4   then, one cash player playing in a mtt full of mtt players would probably fail
    5   however, one mtt player in a mtt full of cash players would still have a reasonable chance

    sort of two-thirds full, one third empty view.  after all, we are all playing an mtt.  it is similar to expecting andy murray to play as well on clay courts as he does on grass.

     







  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : Fair enough, but the 117 MTT sample I have are all fairly recent, in those he has multiple final tables and a big positive ROI.
    Posted by GaryQQQ
    100 MTTs is not a very big sample size, tournaments are high variance. One win can make 120 other results meaningless instantly.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : 100 MTTs is not a very big sample size, tournaments are high variance. One win can make 120 other results meaningless instantly.
    Posted by beaneh
    beanehsharkscopegraph.jpg
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : beanehsharkscopegraph.jpg
    Posted by scotty77

    :Wave:


    Coxys graph vs mine is just mighta aswell stab myself in the eyes a;lskdjf;lkasjdfasdfasdf
  • christiannchristiann Member Posts: 468
    edited January 2011
    Penguin7
    THETANK
    Solack



    :-)
  • aussie09aussie09 Member Posts: 8,033
    edited January 2011


    or seeing if tony mccoy can win the derby, ot dettori the grand national.

    anyway scotty77 is the perfect cross-over


  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,656
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    or seeing if tony mccoy can win the derby, ot dettori the grand national. anyway scotty77 is the perfect crossdresser
    Posted by aussie09

    FYP :))
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders. : FYP :))
    Posted by MAXALLY

    This is exactly what I came to write!!! :D
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: The TSP MTT Final - Runners & Riders.:
    or seeing if tony mccoy can win the derby, ot dettori the grand national. anyway scotty77 is the perfect cross-over
    Posted by aussie09
    Exactly, most of the cash 30 could be considered amongst the best mtt players on the site. Most of the mtt 30 would get nowhere near the best cash players on the site.

    This list is all about volume, which is fair enough. It's just a shame that it's impacted upon the quality of the field. 

    I have to be shy about mentioning names. But I've kept a tally, and if some players make it to TSP I may cry, bar nothing. 
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