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Do aces ever hold up on this site?

rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
I have been playing alot of hands over the last week and had Aces about 7/8 times and 4 times i have had all the money in pre flop and lost and the other times i have reraised preflop and every turn only to be out drawn.

I have been beaten by KK,88,Q10,78D,OJ,910,KJ and 66.

I can get the hands on here if someone can explain how i can paste the hands from my hand history.

But i just cant see what i am doing wrong. i am getting the money in ahead everytime. I of course understand that bad beats happen but for aces not to hold up 8 out of 8 times is getting stressful.

Its either stick with it or just slow play and dont get the pot so big as i am sick of losing my stake in one hit.

I understand with aces your normally onto a winner but this site just seems to enjoy punishing me. i am guessing i am not alone on this one.

and feedback would be helpful
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011

    Yes the site is programmed to make you lose with aces...

    Seriously, it is just maths, AA is not invincible, it is only 1 pair. It can be a vulnerable hand and it will be beat a certain percentage of the time. You have just had your beats in a row, so you are due a few wins in a row with AA. It will happen. Don't get paranoid about the hand, just play it strong and correctly, and learn to fold it on dangerous boards (flushing/straightening)

    Good Luck.

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  • rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2011
    its hard not to get annoyed when this happens though mate.
     Big blind  £0.10 £0.25 £9.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
    CrazyJoey Fold     
    punxxs_13 Raise  £0.40 £0.65 £18.35
    jr85 Fold     
    GAZREEDS Fold     
    TRICKYSHAW Call  £0.35 £1.00 £12.53
    rumsey Raise  £0.90 £1.90 £18.10
    punxxs_13 Raise  £2.40 £4.30 £15.95
    TRICKYSHAW Fold     
    rumsey All-in  £18.10 £22.40 £0.00
    punxxs_13 All-in  £15.95 £38.35 £0.00
    rumsey Unmatched bet  £0.35 £38.00 £0.35
    rumsey Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    punxxs_13 Show
    • K
    • K
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 9
    • 5
    • 6
    		     
    Turn
       
    • J
    		     
    River
       
    • K
    		     
    punxxs_13 Win Three Kings £36.60
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  • rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2011
    AND THIS -

    peter_1961     		Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £4.88
    Seany1875 Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.07
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
    zigg Fold     
    Stevie32 Raise  £0.20 £0.35 £16.95
    andypan534 Fold     
    rumsey Raise  £0.50 £0.85 £21.87
    peter_1961 Fold     
    Seany1875 Raise  £0.70 £1.55 £8.37
    Stevie32 Call  £0.60 £2.15 £16.35
    rumsey Raise  £2.00 £4.15 £19.87
    Seany1875 Call  £1.70 £5.85 £6.67
    Stevie32 Call  £1.70 £7.55 £14.65
    Flop
       
    • 7
    • 2
    • 4
    		     
    Seany1875 Check     
    Stevie32 Check     
    rumsey Bet  £7.55 £15.10 £12.32
    Seany1875 All-in  £6.67 £21.77 £0.00
    Stevie32 Fold     
    rumsey Unmatched bet  £0.88 £20.89 £13.20
    Seany1875 Show
    • 8
    • 8
    		   
    rumsey Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    Turn
       
    • 6
    		     
    River
       
    • 8
    		     
    Seany1875 Win Three 8s £19.49
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  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited January 2011
    san, Aces never hold.

    Give up the game.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011

    Both those hands are coolers. They happen to us all.

    Ive had several outdraws similar to those recently when multitabling double your money sit and goes, but im still making a small profit. Work that out!

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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    AA will hold up against another PP about 80% of the time so this means out ever 10 times u get AA u can excpect to be outdrawn at least twice.... thats poker even a 20% dog can win
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2011
    one thing im confused

    AA v 88 is at NL10 wqith 200BB

    AA v KK is at NL40 with 50BB

    not to be harsh or anything, are we playing out of our BR ?
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site?:
    , are we playing out of our BR ?
    Posted by The_Don90
    seriously don you cant say anything to anyone on this front neither can i :p
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  • rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site?:
    one thing im confused AA v 88 is at NL10 wqith 200BB AA v KK is at NL40 with 50BB not to be harsh or anything, are we playing out of our BR ?
    Posted by The_Don90
    not being funny but i am new to poker forums and nl10 with 200bb & nl40 with 50 bb means nothing to me and playing out of our BR means nothing to me aswell.

    guessing bb means big blind

    please explain.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site?:
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site? : not being funny but i am new to poker forums and nl10 with 200bb & nl40 with 50 bb means nothing to me and playing out of our BR means nothing to me aswell. guessing bb means big blind please explain.
    Posted by rumsey

    Hi rumsey, welcome to the forum. if like above you dont understand just post

    Don is referring to big blinds, when you sit down you are recommended to buy in full (usually 100 bb, but sometimes 200 max). Personally everyone buys in to suit how they play some play better 50 bb deep, some with 200 which obviously allows for more play. also if you do buy in full you should really be topping up but then again thats down to the individual its only recommended because if you get aces or a strong hand next then you can win more.

    Good luck at the tables
    John
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  • RedHouseRedHouse Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2011
    Both hands are NL10, the 40 is a raise in the first hand. Start of the hand has been cut off i think.
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  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site?:
    one thing im confused AA v 88 is at NL10 wqith 200BB AA v KK is at NL40 with 50BB not to be harsh or anything, are we playing out of our BR ?
    Posted by The_Don90

    No, he's playing nl10 with a full stack both hands.

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  • rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2011
    i was plauing nl10 which is a max of £20 stack, i was pretty much full in both cases so not sure what the point of that response was tbh.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Do aces ever hold up on this site?:
    i was plauing nl10 which is a max of £20 stack, i was pretty much full in both cases so not sure what the point of that response was tbh.
    Posted by rumsey

    Fair play rumsey, tbh i didnt even look i just assumed don was correct but checked after other two posted. i was just clearing up what he said ;)
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  • RedHouseRedHouse Member Posts: 242
    edited January 2011
    Don mis read the hand because the small blind being posted at the start of the hand had been cut off when you copied it across.

    Playing outside your bankroll and losing to a bad beat may have explained your obvious distress.
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  • rumseyrumsey Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2011
    no mate both were in my bank roll just seemed to be getting done over alot with aces and it always seems to be when i have a full roll or more.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2011
    I appoligise Rumsey as Redhouse states there i misread for that exact reason. No biggy.
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2011
    Yeah, sometimes they do;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rZayFcFoAo&hd=1

    Other times they don't;

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjVkOV2e4KU&hd=1
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  • PUCPOUNDPUCPOUND Member Posts: 397
    edited January 2011
    Never when Ive got them ! lol
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2011
    Even 4 ways on the odd occasion.

    Bounty Hunter madness;
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    a Small blind  10.00 10.00 1820.00
    b Big blind  20.00 30.00 3050.00
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
    		     
     Fold     
    cRaise  40.00 70.00 160.00
    GaryQQQ Raise  100.00 170.00 2400.00
    a Raise  440.00 610.00 1380.00
    b Call  430.00 1040.00 2620.00
    cAll-in  160.00 1200.00 0.00
    GaryQQQ All-in  2400.00 3600.00 0.00
    a All-in  1380.00 4980.00 0.00
    b Call  2050.00 7030.00 570.00
    a Show
    • 6
    • A
    		   
    b Show
    • K
    • 10
    		   
    c Show
    • K
    • 9
    		   
    GaryQQQ Show
    • A
    • A
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • J
    • 2
    		     
    Turn
       
    • Q
    		     
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    GaryQQQ Win Pair of Aces 7030.00  7030.00
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