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River Shove do u call?

iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
grump Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £1.07
betmakercn Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £19.90
xx Big blind  £0.10 £0.25 £12.90
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • 3
     
mccrory101 Call  £0.10 £0.35 £5.93
xx Check     
iBLUFF Call  £0.10 £0.45 £15.30
grump Fold     
betmakercn Check     
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 3
  • 7
     
betmakercn Check     
mccrory101 Check     
xxx Check     
iBLUFF Bet  £0.25 £0.70 £15.05
betmakercn Call  £0.25 £0.95 £19.65
mccrory101 Fold     
xxx Call  £0.25 £1.20 £12.65
Turn
   
  • 5
     
betmakercn Bet  £0.63 £1.83 £19.02
xxx Call  £0.63 £2.46 £12.02
iBLUFF Raise  £2.00 £4.46 £13.05
betmakercn Fold     
xxx Call  £1.37 £5.83 £10.65
River
   
  • 5
     
xxxAll-in  £10.60 £16.43 £0.05
iBLUFF ???    
right a player has just joined table so thats why there is two bb`s. anyway how do u think i played flop, and turn? also do u call river? do u think he has just hit a house opinions please
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    I fold Q3 pre.  And so should you tbf, you've been around the clinc enough to know that this is a terrible hand to be getting involved with.  No offence ofc but like whats the point of keep posting in the clinic etc and trying to build on your game if your gonna get into hands with this garbage....

    Flop fine.

    Turn I make it 2.5

    River I think I might be tempted to fold given that he had posted and really is playing ATC.  Like 75/T5 are possible. 


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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011

    scotty ignore me i havnt been sleep yet, ill come back and see how bad i played this when i wake up

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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    72o has the potential to flop houses/quads it doesn't mean we throw away 1bb in every unraised pot just in case it does happen!!!
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: River Shove do u call?:
    72o has the potential to flop houses/quads it doesn't mean we throw away 1bb in every unraised pot just in case it does happen!!!
    Posted by scotty77
    great point. as i was hitting everythink i limped thats the reason i limped tbh
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: River Shove do u call?:
    72o has the potential to flop houses/quads it doesn't mean we throw away 1bb in every unraised pot just in case it does happen!!!
    Posted by scotty77
     thanks for the advice scotty
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  • bustout44bustout44 Member Posts: 43
    edited January 2011
    high ibluff i would be folding just goes to show if you play these sort of cards you can get yourself in all sorts of a muddle however hard you hit, i think i could prob put him on a pr 7s although i dont know how hes been playing, the call pre could have been set minning once hit he desides to let you have another card as you have led out, then leads out on the turn he would prob be pretty certain you had hit the flush with your reraise, and the call was was descent odds as he hopes to get all your money if he hits a full hous
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    Fold Pre obviously

    Flop ok

    Turn pot

    I would probably call river with no reads, possible they could have 10/5 or 7/5. although your behind many hands i would put them on q10 or something similar K10/J10 as you do actually bluff quite a bit i reckon you are ahead here, wouldn't put them on flush either.
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: River Shove do u call?:
    Fold Pre obviously Flop ok Turn pot I would probably call river with no reads, possible they could have 10/5 or 7/5. although your behind many hands i would put them on q10 or something similar K10/J10 as you do actually bluff quite a bit i reckon you are ahead here, wouldn't put them on flush either.
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN

    even if the villain did have reads on us, and those reads were that we are a bluffing machine, then why would he open ship river :s
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    He could have had Adiamonds10 so missed flush still feels can get bluffboy of the pot
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2011
    why would you want to get a bluffer off when we have like ~the nuts with AT.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    I didnt mean both A10 diamonds, i meant the ace with the 10. although bit unsure really i am bit tired but i am calling stlill as i think we are ahead
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    This is how the hand played out...
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    grump Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £1.07
    betmakercn Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £19.90
    xxx Big blind  £0.10 £0.25 £12.90
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 3
    		     
    mccrory101 Call  £0.10 £0.35 £5.93
    xxx Check     
    iBLUFF Call  £0.10 £0.45 £15.30
    grump Fold     
    betmakercn Check     
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 3
    • 7
    		     
    betmakercn Check     
    mccrory101 Check     
    xxx Check     
    iBLUFF Bet  £0.25 £0.70 £15.05
    betmakercn Call  £0.25 £0.95 £19.65
    mccrory101 Fold     
    xxx Call  £0.25 £1.20 £12.65
    Turn
       
    • 5
    		     
    betmakercn Bet  £0.63 £1.83 £19.02
    xxxCall  £0.63 £2.46 £12.02
    iBLUFF Raise  £2.00 £4.46 £13.05
    betmakercn Fold     
    xxx Call  £1.37 £5.83 £10.65
    River
       
    • 5
    		     
    xxx All-in  £10.60 £16.43 £0.05
    iBLUFF Call  £10.60 £27.03 £2.45
    xxx Show
    • 10
    • 7
    		   
    iBLUFF Show
    • Q
    • 3
    		   
    iBLUFF Win Flush to the Queen £25.68  £28.13
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011
    nh.

    why does it say xxx went all in on the river, yet he still has 5p left in his balance?
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: River Shove do u call?:
    nh. why does it say xxx went all in on the river, yet he still has 5p left in his balance?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    haha i was trying to work that one out i dunno
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    does that mean i missed out on 5p? sky sort it nowwwwwwwwwwww ;)
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011

    I think the hand should be void, you might have laid it down for that extra 5p - he should feel cheated.

    For his bluff to work he has to maximise his fold equity, unfortunately, the software wouldn't allow him to.

    Compensate the villain imo !
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: River Shove do u call?:
    I think the hand should be void, you might have laid it down for that extra 5p - he should feel cheated. For his bluff to work he has to maximise his fold equity, unfortunately, the software wouldn't allow him to. Compensate the villain imo !
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lmao hahahahahaha
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