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Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.

bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
How do you play against lunatics that will call any raise you make and chase everything to the river?

Basically I'm talking about my local live game. It's generally the same 20 odd guys and they mostly seem to play a style so contradictory to anything I've ever learnt about the game it's impossible to read anything into bet sizes or actions or anything.

I've risen 5xbb with KK to be taken down with 10,8o. I've had people calling my big raises without looking at their cards. Back door 2 pair draws seem to be a notable tactic. Nearly every pot is contested at least 4 ways. I've lost count of how many times AA has been cracked.  And this was just last night. Argghhhh.

How do I adapt to this, quite frankly, terrible play? Do I also become a serial limper/caller? Are any hands even worth raising?

Please no-one say this is the type of players you want to play against as you'll eventually win because believe me, I don't and I'm not.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited January 2011
    try going to Bingo instead??, 
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    welcome to live poker


    what mistakes are they making?


    they call too much and with speculative hands


    how do you punish that?

    have a tight value range pre and raise massive, bet the lot early on in the streets, profits. ez 


    btw you want to be playing with these kind of people....
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011

    Type DOHx7 into the find a player facility.

    Keep refreshing it.

    Keep clicking "join table"

    Keep taking my money.

    Table selection, and bogey players ftw.
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    lol you said bogey
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    lol you said bogey
    Posted by beaneh
    lol you said bogey  too

    i`v been to a couple off off live games and had the same prob, i just sit out early stages and then pick the spot to go
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    try going to Bingo instead??, 
    Posted by N1CK
    Tried that after being knocked out but couldn't even get a line at the bottle-top. Maybe I'm just running bad.
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    welcome to live poker what mistakes are they making? they call too much and with speculative hands how do you punish that? have a tight value range pre and raise massive, bet the lot early on in the streets, profits. ez  btw you want to be playing with these kind of people....
    Posted by beaneh
    Grrr @ final sentence.

    Raise too big and they fold. Then I get blinded out waiting for premiums to shove with as it's not deep enough stacked. Maybe just need to find a happy medium bet size.
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  • bandinibandini Member Posts: 1,802
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    Type DOHx7 into the find a player facility. Keep refreshing it. Keep clicking "join table" Keep taking my money. Table selection, and bogey players ftw.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol

    Double advantage in that you can get cast as a villain in an area 51 thread too. Mucho Thanko for that dude. That's one of my life ambitions ticked off. Didn't think I'd ever manage it tbh. A4 ftw.
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS. : Grrr @ final sentence. Raise too big and they fold. Then I get blinded out waiting for premiums to shove with as it's not deep enough stacked. Maybe just need to find a happy medium bet size.
    Posted by bandini
    beaneeeeehs gonna get ya
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  • JingleMaJingleMa Member Posts: 1,319
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS. : Grrr @ final sentence. Raise too big and they fold. Then I get blinded out waiting for premiums to shove with as it's not deep enough stacked. Maybe just need to find a happy medium bet size.
    Posted by bandini

    Never do this.

    When in Rome...

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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited January 2011
    I would suggest you are undervaluing some hands, over valueing other hand strengths both pre and on the flop, are not realising just how few hands you see in a session so just how much time you expect to be sat there getting dealt trash.

    what format of game are you playing, give some example hands not ... 'oh well one guy raises T8 other calls ai on 853flop and caller mucks'..... stack sizes, rough positions, reads, raise amounts etc all help making decisions. give hands you folded but that you weren't sure about both pre and on the flop. 
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011
    If you cant beat em, join em. its only fun innit

    But seriously, listen to Beane.
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Advice needed for playing against LUNATICS.:
    If you cant beat em, join em. its only fun innit But seriously, listen to Beane.
    Posted by GREGHOGG

    Never thought I'd hear the word "Seriously" and the phrase "listen to Beane" in the same sentence....  ;O)   

    Mind you he makes a good point 
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