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Discuss this hand please?

SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
IMAROCK  Small blind   £0.10  £0.10  £22.01
PARKSER  Big blind   £0.20  £0.30  £33.84
   Your hole cards 
A
A
      
francy67  Call   £0.20  £0.50  £23.03
SJspanky1  Raise   £0.80  £1.30  £20.49
Winalot  Fold    
IMAROCK  Fold    
PARKSER  Call   £0.60  £1.90  £33.24
francy67  Call   £0.60  £2.50  £22.43
Flop
     
3
5
9
      
PARKSER  Check    
francy67  Bet   £0.60  £3.10  £21.83
SJspanky1  Raise   £2.45  £5.55  £18.04
PARKSER  Fold    
francy67  Call   £1.85  £7.40  £19.98
Turn
     
3
      
francy67  Bet   £0.60  £8.00  £19.38
SJspanky1  Raise   £4.90  £12.90  £13.14
francy67  Call   £4.30  £17.20  £15.08
River
     
3
      
francy67  Bet   £4.00  £21.20  £11.08
SJspanky1  All-in   £13.14  £34.34  £0.00
francy67  Call   £9.14  £43.48  £1.94
francy67  Show 
3
2
SJspanky1  Show 
A
A
francy67  Win  Four 3s  £41.68   £43.62


I know you want donkeys calling preflop with these sort ofhands but please? Can I lay this down at any stage?
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  • yuranASSetyuranASSet Member Posts: 485
    edited January 2011
    Quite simply no. I don't even think the best in the world can get away from this.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011

    They are not donkeys for set mining.

    As shown calling raises in multi way pots with small pairs can stack a big hand. So there is nothing wrong with your opponants play imo.

    You can be suspicious of a set, but its hard to get away from, and i think its probably too tight not to stack off here.

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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please?:
    They are not donkeys for set mining. As shown calling raises in multi way pots with small pairs can stack a big hand. So there is nothing wrong with your opponants play imo. You can be suspicious of a set, but its hard to get away from, and i think its probably too tight not to stack off here.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    Hoggers, look again, the guy wasnt set mining. He had 23.

    Also the the OP i dont think you can fold, with 3x3's on the board and you have AA then its a pretty simple stack off for me.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please?:
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please? : Hoggers, look again, the guy wasnt set mining. He had 23. Also the the OP i dont think you can fold, with 3x3's on the board and you have AA then its a pretty simple stack off for me.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Ooops, misread it, my bad!

    Ye can never put him on quad 3s, but 55 and 99 are reasonable possibilities.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please?:
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please? : Ooops, misread it, my bad! Ye can never put him on quad 3s, but 55 and 99 are reasonable possibilities.
    Posted by GREGHOGG
    because the guy just calls down i usually rule that out, expessially if the opponent reads us as strong.

    However yeah i agree, 55 and 99 both possible but imo unlikey
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    cant see how you or the best of the best could lay it down, ul!
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    VUL but i probably fold turn , paired board person still firing likely they have FH here as it happens they have quads. thats the good thing about playing 2/3 but pretty loose call by them on the flop imo

    make a note of francy

    Welcome to the forum

    PS- if i didnt fold turn would call river as not putting them on 3, but considering you re-raise so big pretty obv they're not bluffing by river
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  • SJspanky1SJspanky1 Member Posts: 620
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please?:
    VUL but i probably fold turn , paired board person still firing likely they have FH here as it happens they have quads. thats the good thing about playing 2/3 but pretty loose call by them on the flop imo make a note of francy Welcome to the forum PS- if i didnt fold turn would call river as not putting them on 3, but considering you re-raise so big pretty obv they're not bluffing by river
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN

    Thanks for the feedback guys. What my hand info doesn't show is that the flop came with 2 diamonds. Because of the villains weakass donk leads after flop and turn and no reraises after I bump it up I put him on either a flush draw or top pair with a decent kicker.
    When the river brings the third 3 and he leads out again I'm so pot committed and 90% sure I'm in front I thought shipping was the only play.
    I admit I call raises with the occasional fishy connected or suited hand but 2,3 off??? Not sure the villain is gonna find that pays in the long run!!!
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  • mattyd86mattyd86 Member Posts: 15
    edited January 2011
    This is fine. Who donks sets like this at these levels? Cooler.
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: Discuss this hand please?:
    VUL but i probably fold turn , paired board person still firing likely they have FH here as it happens they have quads. thats the good thing about playing 2/3 but pretty loose call by them on the flop imo make a note of francy Welcome to the forum PS- if i didnt fold turn would call river as not putting them on 3, but considering you re-raise so big pretty obv they're not bluffing by river
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    Folding turn here would be bad imo.


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