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FT Bubble in MTT....

MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic


Ok....its the FT bubble in the Ed's mid league. I am the short stack and have been TOTALLY card dead for about the last 10 hands or so..4/2...5/3...7/3....etc etc...no ace or even picture card so I am looking for a spot to get them in. The table has been quite passive with some min rasing blind stealing but no real confrontations....then I get dealt this hand and my 1st thoughts are I am defo shoving here. There is a raise than shove so I think the original raiser is not folding so I tank using all my time, then let go thinking I must be behind.

Discuss please before I show the hand in full.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceCormach Small blind  300.00 300.00 2940.00 MAXALLY Big blind  600.00 900.00 5007.25   Your hole cards 10 A       JPDERRY Raise  1800.00 2700.00 9192.50 Killerpea Fold     Cormach All-in  2940.00 5640.00 0.00 MAXALLY Fold     JPDERRY Call  1440.00 7080.00 7752.50
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    edited January 2011


    Chip stacks were Cormach - 2940
                            Maxally - 5007
                            JPDERRY -9192
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  • thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
    edited January 2011
    Think im folding here,the orignal riaser has called the all in.if you shove and he calls,which i think he has to,would be no suprise that your behind.you cant call,as it depletes your stack and if you miss,and he bets uve just thrown away your chips.

    so its a shove or fold.
    do you want to be 3 handed when your tourny life is at stake with ace 10

    have to fold
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited January 2011
    You're not the short stack, Cormach is. Anyway, it's a marginal decision but I fold here too. ATo is good enough to open shove with in position, but not good enough to get it in given the action before your turn to act, you'll probably be in bad shape in a 3 way pot. Pass this time, you'll still have 14 bigs to play with and plenty of fold equity. If this table is passsive I'd rather open shove from the button with any 2 cards than get them in in this spot.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited January 2011

    I'm not sure where u get 14xbb from Gary????

    300/600 and MA has 5k.....

    Either way, I'm sure it's +ev to fold here if it's on the bubble - you are 100% sure JPDERRY is gonna snap off the shove, and then you can cash......

    When JP opens that big, (3x) it's really bad whatever he has, but it's more likely to be ahead of AT than behind.......

    I think it's a good fold given the bubble dynamic.

    wp

    Also - you say the table has been really passive - you could/should be jammin any 2 cards from the button/sb if the pot is unraised.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    I think you have to fold here


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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    Im folding here and waiting for a better spot, much sooner shove with AT than call.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited January 2011
    Well its defo a fold for me i would much rather shove with any two cards than make a call with A 10 here
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    edited January 2011


    Cheers for the replies. I did fold but I am still not 100 % sure it was the right action. I eventually went out with KQ v K2 aipf.....2 was 1st card out on the flop, obv.
    This is the outcome to the hand....as you can see I would of gone in with the worst hand but come out with the best result! If only Sky did H4H and a time bank :))
    Doh - I had already cashed. This was the FT bubble, not the cash bubble. Would this change your thinking?

    * EDIT - I will post hand up later, at work at the moment and chrome is rubbish when posting hands!







                   
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited January 2011
    Pinky in other words you were spot on, folded when behind. got it in good and ul

    nvm well played next time run a bit better
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  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,618
    edited January 2011
    Here is the hand in all its glory....

    Hand History #334027483 (21:22 25/01/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceCormach Small blind  300.00 300.00 2940.00 MAXALLY Big blind  600.00 900.00 5007.25   Your hole cards 10 A       JPDERRY Raise  1800.00 2700.00 9192.50 Killerpea Fold     Cormach All-in  2940.00 5640.00 0.00 MAXALLY Fold     JPDERRY Call  1440.00 7080.00 7752.50 Cormach Show 4 4    JPDERRY Show K A    Flop    Q 8 J       Turn    9       River    5       Cormach Win Pair of 4s 7080.00  7080.00
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