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bad call or bad luck

thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
edited January 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PLAYING IN A DYM,guy said i made a bad call,i disagree,just bad luck,put him on a big ace,so was pretty certain i was in front.what do u think??
est7mate Small blind   25.00 25.00 1730.00
LukEvie22 Big blind   50.00 75.00 2490.00
  Your hole cards
  • 3
  • 3
     
t3 Raise   100.00 175.00 1821.25
eddy-scfc Call   100.00 275.00 1413.75
thejudge10 Call   100.00 375.00 2430.00
SolidStan1 Fold        
best7mate Fold        
LukEvie22 Raise   250.00 625.00 2240.00
t3 Call   200.00 825.00 1621.25
eddy-scfc Call   200.00 1025.00 1213.75
thejudge10 Call   200.00 1225.00 2230.00
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 8
  • 2
     
LukEvie22 All-in   2240.00 3465.00 0.00
t3 Fold        
eddy-scfc Fold        
thejudge10 All-in   2230.00 5695.00 0.00
LukEvie22 Unmatched bet   10.00 5685.00 10.00
LukEvie22 Show
  • A
  • J
     
thejudge10 Show
  • 3
  • 3
     
Turn
   
  • 4
     
River
   
  • 4
     
LukEvie22 Win Two Pairs, 8s and 4s 5685.00   5695.00
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited January 2011
    U were ahead when the chips went in as your read was correct... IMO ul!
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  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited January 2011
    Don't think I would be calling at this stage in a DYM mate.  If the guy has an overpair your dead, and if he has 2 overcards your still not an overwhelming favourite. 
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  • JIMMYMADJIMMYMAD Member Posts: 154
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: bad call or bad luck:
    Don't think I would be calling at this stage in a DYM mate.  If the guy has an overpair your dead, and if he has 2 overcards your still not an overwhelming favourite. 
    Posted by 67Bhoys
    Agreed, ahead when money went in
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2011
    In a DYM I'd be close to snap folding preflop, with 2.5k your above average and simple don't have to play a hand. As for flop with the call your only beating a 2 or air which is pretty hard to read imo.
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  • thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
    edited January 2011
    DUDESKIN AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE,i did say i put the guy on a big ace,so when i got my chips in i was in front.
    with out reads,and putting people on hands ,ud be folding 90% of flops.
    You have got ask yourself why would he be pushing all in on such a flop.if u have an 8 what would this accomplish.
    would u push all in with an over pair,always a chance that some 1 might have an eight.
    would u push all in to try and steal .
    most likely play.
    when we show iam in front,and a slight fav to win.
    now u said u would hav prob snap fold,pre,but thats not the question,its about the call after the flop.
    now if u think you are in front,would u fold.As you know you are facing two overs.
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  • NorbitNorbit Member Posts: 490
    edited January 2011

    Yeah but as Dudeskin stated, this is a DYM, no need to risking your stack on basically a gamble, objective is to survive.

    If it was a standard SnG then sure nice call, ul as your going for the win.

    I just dont think this call in the long run in DYM's at that blind level is a good one.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: bad call or bad luck:
    DUDESKIN AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE,i did say i put the guy on a big ace,so when i got my chips in i was in front. with out reads,and putting people on hands ,ud be folding 90% of flops. You have got ask yourself why would he be pushing all in on such a flop.if u have an 8 what would this accomplish. would u push all in with an over pair,always a chance that some 1 might have an eight. would u push all in to try and steal . most likely play. when we show iam in front,and a slight fav to win. now u said u would hav prob snap fold,pre,but thats not the question,its about the call after the flop. now if u think you are in front,would u fold.As you know you are facing two overs.
    Posted by thejudge10
    It's certainly a risky play by villain as he's shoving 2k odd into 1k odd but I still don't like the call as your basically praying he has air which isn't always gonna be the case.

    For me DYM's are ALL about risk aversion, ducking and diving etc, staying afloat, no need to play for the win as it's top 3 paid. You can never ever KNOW what your facing your purely guessing based on what you've previously seen an opponant do and working out how likely it is he has a certain range, 2 overs are in the range but so are a LOT of pairs imo.
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  • thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
    edited January 2011
    Think THATS WHERE THE CONFUSION LIEES HERE,i dont often play DYM.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited January 2011
    In Response to Re: bad call or bad luck:
    Think THATS WHERE THE CONFUSION LIEES HERE,i dont often play DYM.
    Posted by thejudge10
    Well that explains a lot lol.
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