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Automatic call? Question about PF betting now in thread, post 13.

Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic
OP has been on table for about an hour, has been quite aggro, 3 betting 2 or 3 times and winning without showdown. Has always had genuine hands when called.
What range would yo uput OP on and is this a snap call?
AGM09 Small blind  £0.04 £0.04 £10.51
Sildenafil Big blind  £0.08 £0.12 £7.43
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
MickDundee Raise  £0.24 £0.36 £7.56
OP Raise  £0.72 £1.08 £10.46
essex119 Fold     
Seagull158 Raise  £2.00 £3.08 £8.09
AGM09 Fold     
Sildenafil Fold     
MickDundee Fold     
OP Call  £1.28 £4.36 £9.18
Flop
   
  • 4
  • 10
  • 5
     
OP Check     
Seagull158 Bet  £2.00 £6.36 £6.09
OP All-in  £9.18 £15.54 £0.00
Seagull158 ??????     
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    He could easily have JJ-QQ-KK,........... TT is in there, and crushes u obv, and you may have to dodge the AKss but you should be happy to do so.

    I can't see him holding anything other than the above hands, apart from maybe the 2 black aces.

    Either way don't fold.

    edit - raise closer to £3 pre too.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2011
    Easiest call ever..at worst I THINK in this situation is that it is a flip..............but i bet coz ur postin ur hand here he has a set? any way played ok i like ur re raise size pre only because ur on the button..................ur flop bet was good too imo , i mean if you bet £4 ur oppo would kno ur not folding, ur bet gave him a spot to bluff......Snap call here
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    If he has a set, it's tens.

    I think he has AK of spades and got there.

    The range of hands he 3 bets, and flats a 4 bet with is very very narrow.


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  • mandyh614mandyh614 Member Posts: 52
    edited February 2011
    ACE TEN SPADES
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  • silentbobsilentbob Member Posts: 2,137
    edited February 2011
    I snap call then swear lots as he flips over 10's or binks his flush :(
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited February 2011

    Myself if I was 4 betting with AA I would be shoving the lot in hoping at least one calls as I dont want a 3 way pot on the flop.

    You have to call I also think he has an over pair or semi bluff with AK spades in which case ur ahead, a set maybe as if you had a set with the flush draw on the board you would want to end it here.... well thats poker AA gets busted just kick the wall.

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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited February 2011
    Simple call.

    If your behind you are very unlucky.

    Expect to be ahead more often than not.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2011
    i think 4 bet size is fine, in this spot dont even worry what he has snap call make a note and move on
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2011
    fwiw the hands i would think he most likly has when he shoves are AQs, JJ, 10,10, QQ and a badly played AK in that order
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Automatic call? Thanks for replies. I called. He had the other two aces. Split pot and the rake won:
    In Response to Re: Automatic call? Thanks for replies. I called. He had the other two aces. Split pot and the rake won : Because the OP was slow playing his aces i guess, but I dont see why AA is an automatic AI PF. In his position I might have called too. What's wrong with that play?
    Posted by Seagull158
    slow playing one pair is just crazzeeee talk
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2011
    i would have put AA in but i thought it was pointless
    fwiw i think he played them ok
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