The point the Irish man, and others made, is a valid one.
If the rake on £50 dyms was increased to even 15%, there wud be **** on.
It's quite amazing that they can actually get away with it - and have no intentions of changing it. It's like stakeism.
(that isn't underlined in red btw - is it actually a real word???)
The TV channel and the forum isn't there for clients of sky poker, it's there for clients of sky TV. You can use the forum and watch the channel even if you've never ever played a game on sky poker.
And of course all my previous comments on the subject were tongue in cheek - the whole situation is abit farcical, and should be sorted out, like many other things on here (league points, poker points) - but they probably never will be.
Sky offer their own TV channel, they put on Live MTTs, they offer freerolls (OK so do other sites), they have a thriving forum, the presenters/analysts are always available to give advice and help. The higher staked players really get looked after.... Skypoker FTW p.s In regards to the posts saying Sky need to change, Skypoker is the busiest it has ever been, everyone said the 8pms would die with the double buyin, if anything the numbers have increased. The traffic on cash games (especially 50nl/100nl) has increased massivly. They cant be doing a lot wrong IMO. Posted by FlashFlush
as i said sky is not to bad......there forum i think does need looking at i.e there has been many many posts put on the community suggestion page that has had no responces at all...now to me the idea behind it is to get feedback from players to make the site better....it would be nice to see it with abit more behind it.......also there seems to be alot of posts being moved or deleted when theres no need to be which needs looking at i think as other things(poker points,,,poker league).....sky does put on alot of things for players which is good.....as for the rake on smaller games i do think its to much as do many others but thats up to sky if they feel its working they nothing you can do....i just think theres alot of things they can do to make the site bigger and better for new and old
as the site is now it aint to bad even compared to the bigger sites
Hardly the point imo Liams, what I'm saying is that more players would stay here if it was easier to build a bankroll here, most sites charge 10% max rake on tournaments, sky charge 15% on 1 pound dym games, I think sky, and consequently all of it's players would benefit long term if this was addressed Posted by oynutter
In Response to Re: SKY POKER GOOD OR BAD? : The extra rake is to fund everything I have listed Posted by FlashFlush
How many top players are there on this site 2 or 3 hundred 500 max.There are over 40 thousand names on the league(and not everyone who plays is on it) that is a **** of a lot of extra pennies generated by the low and micro players for what?Bingo freerolls that other sites offer.
Sky offer their own TV channel, they put on Live MTTs, they offer freerolls (OK so do other sites), they have a thriving forum, the presenters/analysts are always available to give advice and help. The higher staked players really get looked after.... Skypoker FTW p.s In regards to the posts saying Sky need to change, Skypoker is the busiest it has ever been, everyone said the 8pms would die with the double buyin, if anything the numbers have increased. The traffic on cash games (especially 50nl/100nl) has increased massivly. They cant be doing a lot wrong IMO. Posted by FlashFlush
Why not just come out with some buff about each game/tourney costing on average 25p (for example) in software costs/ staffing/ channel 865/profit etc which has to be spread across the whole site so if they decreased rake on micros its the biggies who r subsidising it. May be a load of old tosh and people can agree with it or not, but surely is better that the gloves on & into the ring approach of deleting loadsa posts etc?
to be fair, we all know what the rake is and we all still play them, there are far worse problems than %rake. if you think the amount you pay on dym is bad go jump on a 25/50 hu cash game it would make "them" jump back into your stomach. if you dont like paying it dont play, if you think it is morally wrong dont play and if you are a winning player you wont care!!
to be fair, we all know what the rake is and we all still play them, there are far worse problems than %rake. if you think the amount you pay on dym is bad go jump on a 25/50 hu cash game it would make "them" jump back into your stomach. if you dont like paying it dont play, if you think it is morally wrong dont play and if you are a winning player you wont care!! Posted by pod1
to be fair, we all know what the rake is and we all still play them, there are far worse problems than %rake. if you think the amount you pay on dym is bad go jump on a 25/50 hu cash game it would make "them" jump back into your stomach. if you dont like paying it dont play, if you think it is morally wrong dont play and if you are a winning player you wont care!! Posted by pod1
I believe that many players at the micro levels will be new and will be oblivious to the fact that they are being charged a higher percentage rake to play the exact same format of game that a higher level player has to pay.
I would also imagine that if they become aware of this they would be none too pleased and if they are sensible would take their business elsewhere.
Lat time I looked, and admittedly it was some time ago, no one was holding a gun to my head, screaming in my ear "YOU WILL PLAY SKY POKER"
We play here because we want to. If you're not happy with some aspects of the site there is an entire thread devoted to your opinions. "Community Suggestions"
At the end of the day the benefits and fun you get from playing this site far outway a few % points of rake that may be charged.
i play poker in a few pubs during the week dartootin and i class the beer as rake, some pubs charge £2.50 some £2.90. i go there to play poker , the extra couple of quid really doesnt put me off playing poker there ,it makes me more determined to win!!
Whas more important some silly petty 5% commission give sky extra for rake OR the fact that you cannot unregister from tourneys and not be credited the cash and forfeit the game entirely.???
Nice freindly site and I know it was /is the best one going so far in the uk ,but as a level I think they are way off par given the fact if u unregister from tournaments you forfeit the seat regardless ,no credits ...
One would imagine if they cut down on freebies and marketing promos and freerolls ,they wouldnt ave to increase the RAKE.
On a side note I just looked at phil12uk stats on sharkscope ,..very impressive lol.. gl skypoker
i play poker in a few pubs during the week dartootin and i class the beer as rake, some pubs charge £2.50 some £2.90. i go there to play poker , the extra couple of quid really doesnt put me off playing poker there ,it makes me more determined to win!! Posted by pod1
In Response to Re: SKY POKER GOOD OR BAD? : To be fair sky have been pretty good to you after your outburst on the rail during last weeks vegas final. I was sure you would get banned. Posted by donkeyplop
for sure i agree, but poker is full of passion and i am the out spoken sort of person, not that it makes my outbust right, i was well and truely out of order
Hmmmmm I tend to give these discussions a wide berth..however...
The amount of time it takes to play a micro DYM and a medium DYM is pretty much the same right...therefore if you look on rake as a site rent charge..why should the micro's play for the same amount of time as the mid players but pay much less...
Hmmmmm I tend to give these discussions a wide berth..however... The amount of time it takes to play a micro DYM and a medium DYM is pretty much the same right...therefore if you look on rake as a site rent charge..why should the micro's play for the same amount of time as the mid players but pay much less... Think it though... Thoughts... xx Posted by TRIP5
Because it is in sky pokers interest that they are able to build a bankroll to play bigger games with innit?
And because it is in sky's interest that they do not go elsewhere because the rake is only 10% on other sites innit?
Hmmmmm I tend to give these discussions a wide berth..however... The amount of time it takes to play a micro DYM and a medium DYM is pretty much the same right...therefore if you look on rake as a site rent charge..why should the micro's play for the same amount of time as the mid players but pay much less... Think it though... Thoughts... xx Posted by TRIP5
This is a joke, right? By this logic then surely someone playing a $5.50 stt is is being hard done by as someone playing a $5.50 mtt is getting much more value for his/her 50p as the mtt could go on for hours. Maybe Sky should charge rake on an mtt by the hour. Just lol.
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as the site is now it aint to bad even compared to the bigger sites
SKY DO SHED LOADS FOR US AS PLAYERS, WE SEEM TO FORGET THIS !
I was sure you would get banned.
Why not just come out with some buff about each game/tourney costing on average 25p (for example) in software costs/ staffing/ channel 865/profit etc which has to be spread across the whole site so if they decreased rake on micros its the biggies who r subsidising it. May be a load of old tosh and people can agree with it or not, but surely is better that the gloves on & into the ring approach of deleting loadsa posts etc?
I would also imagine that if they become aware of this they would be none too pleased and if they are sensible would take their business elsewhere.
Nice freindly site and I know it was /is the best one going so far in the uk ,but as a level I think they are way off par given the fact if u unregister from tournaments you forfeit the seat regardless ,no credits ...
One would imagine if they cut down on freebies and marketing promos and freerolls ,they wouldnt ave to increase the RAKE.
On a side note I just looked at phil12uk stats on sharkscope ,..very impressive lol.. gl skypoker
The amount of time it takes to play a micro DYM and a medium DYM is pretty much the same right...therefore if you look on rake as a site rent charge..why should the micro's play for the same amount of time as the mid players but pay much less...
Think it though...
Thoughts...
xx
And because it is in sky's interest that they do not go elsewhere because the rake is only 10% on other sites innit?