belsibub, this is all ifs buts and maybes. "if" you are still on £10 "if" the player has more than you, "but what if" you have built up to£15 and you go in against someone with£5 in front of him. no one is saying there shouldnt be tables at nl10 with 100bis (everyone i think agrees with that) but the arguments for why dont stack up. it is a level playing field after all,EVERY player has the option of playing with 100bb or200 bb its your choice. but to say you are at a disadvantage is not credable. yes nl300 will sit down with the max because of confidence in there ability and yes it is the right thing to do, but this aint nl300! the amount of people at nl10 who sit down with £6.44 etc is huge. i play nl 10/20/30 and the deciding factor for me which table i choose isnt the buyin or my br, its the players at the table, this will play a much bigger facter in a winning/losing session
The most annoying thing about NL10 is when you want to re loadf quick to 100bb you have to press max buy in and then delete the first digit so that you dont buy in for 200bb.. just change it to 100bb as standard then no complaints
Choice is the determining factor.As i have said in previous posts i know there are always going to be large and short stacks at a table and sky and the reg's at this level won't want it to change.All i am asking for is the choice of a couple of £10 max tables(as all 100bb levels offer deepstacks) so people can play what they are used to.Imo there is a demand for them and would not hurt to try.
I agree all tables should be 100bb max but on my list of changes I would like to see on site it comes about 134056th on the list. What affects the games most is the minimum buy in. Which should be more than 10bb.
The most annoying thing about NL10 is when you want to re loadf quick to 100bb you have to press max buy in and then delete the first digit so that you dont buy in for 200bb.. just change it to 100bb as standard then no complaints Posted by WHOAMI196
this exactly often stopped me getting it in intime for the next hand. I now wont reload at this level.
Its clear to me that NL10 regs want the change, and non-NL10 players dont want it.
What Hurst and other seem to miss, is yes people can double up and still lose it all, but at least i know i lost that £20 to a guy who earnt £10 and made it, rather than some random joe who is allowed to buy in more than me. I wont play deep stacked tables at NL4 or NL20. The only table i use the 250BI rule is the NL4 HU table.
There's a completely different way of playing 200bb's deep compared to 100bb's. IMO there should be an option of buying in deep but only on specific 'deep' tables. So each level has standard 100bb buyin tables and deep 200bb buyin tables. Choose whichever one you want to sit at and how much you want to sit with. Minimum buyins should deffo be raised to at least 20bb's unless a 'shallow' table option is implemented
You dont have to load £20 you can load £10 or even £2.... if you cant afford £20 maybe your BR is to small for 10nl anyway. Posted by waynec
hey wayne dont want sound sound disrespectful so i mean this in the deepest respects. Yes i can buy in for less, but my concearn is what other people are buyin in for after me.
and the people that want it changed maybe work on a 15-20BI rule which means their safe for NL10 but only for 100BB
Therefore in their BR terms if they could afford £20 theyd just play NL20 which would make NL10 completely pointless/
In Response to Re: 5p/10p cash tables max buy in amount - Please Vote! : hey wayne dont want sound sound disrespectful so i mean this in the deepest respects. Yes i can buy in for less, but my concearn is what other people are buyin in for after me. and the people that want it changed maybe work on a 15-20BI rule which means their safe for NL10 but only for 100BB Therefore in their BR terms if they could afford £20 theyd just play NL20 which would make NL10 completely pointless/ Posted by The_Don90
Exactly this
TBH I'm not arguing against what anyone has said about the larger stacks & the like but I personally would like to have a choice.
i have totally misread the point of this thread, i didn't realise that ALL these tables have a 200bb buy in option which i do find rather strange, my apologies for not reading this properly
i have totally misread the point of this thread, i didn't realise that ALL these tables have a 200bb buy in option which i do find rather strange, my apologies for not reading this properly Posted by N1CK
Well done on being very honest,i wonder if anyone else will do the same? xxx
Does anyone have any idea why the standard buy-in for 5p-10p is 200bbs? It has been for as long as I can remember and I've never heard a plausible explaination. I'm sure this point was raised a long time ago and the only comment to come from Sky was 'our players prefer the deepstack structure'. This poll and the comments show this isn't really true.
I think that the max buy-in should be reduced to 100bbs, with a couple of deepstack tables available. This would bring the max buy-in into line with all other levels on the site, and would enable players to follow more easily the advice repeatedly offered by the Sky experts regarding strict BRM and always sitting down with the max at a cash table. Moving up from NL8 to NL10 and sticking to the 5% rule of BRM means you need to increase your roll from 160 quid to 400 quid, this is a big jump...
i think there is a good case to say that having all these tables 200bb could lead to bad bankroll management, example being if a player gets stuck a buyin its very easy to reload to the max and chase losses which potentially can lead to disaster
the common practice of all the sites i play on is the high % of tables are 100bb with a smaller % of shallow and deep tables
i think that skypoker is letting its customers down by not giving them a choice as far as this matter is concerned and i am fully behind this thread now
i think there is a good case to say that having all these tables 200bb could lead to bad bankroll management, example being if a player gets stuck a buyin its very easy to reload to the max and chase losses which potentially can lead to disaster the common practice of all the sites i play on is the high % of tables are 100bb with a smaller % of shallow and deep tables i think that skypoker is letting its customers down by not giving them a choice as far as this matter is concerned and i am fully behind this thread now Posted by N1CK
Are u ok Nick!! never seen you so nice....sit down m8
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Choice is the determining factor.As i have said in previous posts i know there are always going to be large and short stacks at a table and sky and the reg's at this level won't want it to change.All i am asking for is the choice of a couple of £10 max tables(as all 100bb levels offer deepstacks) so people can play what they are used to.Imo there is a demand for them and would not hurt to try.
I agree all tables should be 100bb max but on my list of changes I would like to see on site it comes about 134056th on the list. What affects the games most is the minimum buy in. Which should be more than 10bb.
Its clear to me that NL10 regs want the change, and non-NL10 players dont want it.
What Hurst and other seem to miss, is yes people can double up and still lose it all, but at least i know i lost that £20 to a guy who earnt £10 and made it, rather than some random joe who is allowed to buy in more than me. I wont play deep stacked tables at NL4 or NL20. The only table i use the 250BI rule is the NL4 HU table.
Minimum buyins should deffo be raised to at least 20bb's unless a 'shallow' table option is implemented
and the people that want it changed maybe work on a 15-20BI rule which means their safe for NL10 but only for 100BB
Therefore in their BR terms if they could afford £20 theyd just play NL20 which would make NL10 completely pointless/
I think that the max buy-in should be reduced to 100bbs, with a couple of deepstack tables available. This would bring the max buy-in into line with all other levels on the site, and would enable players to follow more easily the advice repeatedly offered by the Sky experts regarding strict BRM and always sitting down with the max at a cash table. Moving up from NL8 to NL10 and sticking to the 5% rule of BRM means you need to increase your roll from 160 quid to 400 quid, this is a big jump...
the common practice of all the sites i play on is the high % of tables are 100bb with a smaller % of shallow and deep tables
i think that skypoker is letting its customers down by not giving them a choice as far as this matter is concerned and i am fully behind this thread now
Are u ok Nick!! never seen you so nice....sit down m8
I've spoken to the powers that be and they are going to look at and review this now.
Regards
Lee