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Second hand of dym, over pair facing donk shove on Paired board.

The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic
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PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancestrutter71Small blind 10.0010.001970.00eddy-scfcBig blind 20.0030.001960.00 Your hole cardsKK   Tings89Fold    Serge77Fold    xRaise 100.00130.001900.00The_Don90Raise 260.00390.001480.00strutter71Fold    eddy-scfcFold    xCall 160.00550.001740.00Flop  91010   xAll-in 1740.002290.000.00The_Don90?????
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    fold, aces!!!
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  • lynx3ffectlynx3ffect Member Posts: 452
    edited February 2011
    he never open shoves with a ten , think about it!
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Second hand of dym, over pair facing donk shove on Paired board.:
    he never open shoves with a ten , think about it!
    Posted by lynx3ffect
    i ruled a Tx and 99 out with the shove. AA was a worry. Maybe QJdd/78dd which have good equity against me.

    Ill post results later
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  • efgloserefgloser Member Posts: 406
    edited February 2011
    cool
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  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited February 2011
    I am folding that. Too early to shove when there is a paired board. DYM is about survival and if you dont know the player it is difficult to say what he has. Maybe i am a bit too cagey but i am putting those down. Couldnt blame anyone for shoving the lot in though. 
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited February 2011
    im not 3 betting pre if im not getting it in preflop or on a safe (ish) flop like that.

    I'm the ultimate dym nit, and im not folding that!

    AA is possible but unlikely imo. looks like a shove with QQ/JJ to me.

    I am probably flatting the preflop raise with KK on the button to disguise the strength of my hand vs an unknown tbh. That way, if we are coolered by AA so be it, but playing it that way means that we can control the pot and decide when to get our money in.
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,072
    edited February 2011
    spot on as usual greg, i think you're ahead here, it's a call from me too, 99 or a 10 seem very unlikely here and like greg i think it is more likely he has qq,jj or even aq or ak diamonds
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  • waynecwaynec Member Posts: 1,023
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: Second hand of dym, over pair facing donk shove on Paired board.:
    fold, aces!!!
    Posted by pod1
    I think if he had AA he would have shoved/4bet pre to Dons 3bet
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  • JohnConnorJohnConnor Member Posts: 1,160
    edited February 2011
    Yeah, I would snap this off this to be fair, it looks for all the world like you're ahead. I would 3-bet bigger pre though, nothing is folding to that and you don't want to be begging for action with KK early on. You're telegraphing your hand and giving people good odds to set mine and stack you.
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