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better?? or too much on turn!

pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic
DirtyDolla Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £32.56
pod1 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £53.03
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • 8
     
OkayPokay Fold     
yuranASSet Fold     
salazar Fold     
bambix01 Call  £0.20 £0.50 £60.88
DirtyDolla Call  £0.10 £0.60 £32.46
pod1 Check     
Flop
   
  • 10
  • Q
  • J
     
DirtyDolla Bet  £0.40 £1.00 £32.06
pod1 Raise  £1.80 £2.80 £51.23
bambix01 Call  £1.80 £4.60 £59.08
DirtyDolla Call  £1.40 £6.00 £30.66
Turn
   
  • 3
     
DirtyDolla Check     
pod1 Bet  £10.00 £16.00 £41.23
bambix01 Fold     
DirtyDolla Fold     
pod1 Muck     
pod1 Win  £5.70  £46
ob a bit worried about flush draws and higher straights.
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  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited February 2011
    wouldn't normally advocate overbetting pot with the goods outside of NL4 and *maybe* NL8. It's a bit of a scary board with the bad end of straight- if a K or Q comes your straight suddenly looks totally borked, not to mention diamonds. So I do understand- but I think a pot bet is better here. Flop raise was nice though.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2011
    Just bet 4-5 quid on turn.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    just thought with 6 in the middle already potting it on the turn might just bring along str and flush draws, hence going more.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    Other extreme Pod lad.

    Just 5 quid-ish - you can still fold if the river comes the 9 of diamonds.

    How do you flop the nuts so often??? It's insane.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    i got plenty more ,but i played them s h i t e  so i aint puttin them up lol
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    Get em up u tart, use this thread.

    Have you got any where you don't flop or turn the nuts?
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited February 2011

    Yes that bet on the turn is a bit extreme, you are frightening off anything that would have stayed in to give you value and are only getting called/raised by one of the two hands that beat you. I like the raise size on the flop tho.

    Dohhhhhhh the idiot end of the straight is NOT the nuts! lol.

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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    Reg22 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £21.33
    MULDER Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £6.68
    scotty77 Big blind  £0.20 £0.50 £19.80
      Your hole cards
    • J
    • 10
    		     
    scotty77 Check     
    Sha1979 Fold     
    wobblylegs Call  £0.20 £0.70 £9.22
    pod1 Call  £0.20 £0.90 £18.05
    Reg22 Fold     
    MULDER Check     
    Flop
       
    • K
    • Q
    • K
    		     
    MULDER Check     
    scotty77 Check     
    wobblylegs Bet  £0.20 £1.10 £9.02
    pod1 Raise  £0.85 £1.95 £17.20
    MULDER Fold     
    scotty77 Fold     
    wobblylegs Call  £0.65 £2.60 £8.37
    Turn
       
    • 3
    		     
    wobblylegs Check     
    pod1 Bet  £1.95 £4.55 £15.25
    wobblylegs Call  £1.95 £6.50 £6.42
    River
       
    • A
    		     
    wobblylegs Bet  £1.60 £8.10 £4.82
    pod1 Raise  £6.45 £14.55 £8.80
    wobblylegs All-in  £4.82 £19.37 £0.00
    pod1 Unmatched bet  £0.03 £19.34 £8.83
    wobblylegs Show
    • Q
    • K
    		   
    pod1 Show
    • J
    • 10
    		 
    me getting cute and getting caught!!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    or this little beauty this morning
    hamster880 Big blind  £0.20 £0.20 £9.34
      Your hole cards
    • 7
    • 7
    		     
    fremont Fold     
    pod1 Raise  £0.60 £0.80 £26.28
    Stew1 Fold     
    frixi Fold     
    hamster880 Call  £0.40 £1.20 £8.94
    Flop
       
    • 5
    • 5
    • 7
    		     
    hamster880 Bet  £0.60 £1.80 £8.34
    pod1 Call  £0.60 £2.40 £25.68
    Turn
       
    • 9
    		     
    hamster880 Bet  £2.40 £4.80 £5.94
    pod1 Call  £2.40 £7.20 £23.28
    River
       
    • 6
    		     
    hamster880 All-in  £5.94 £13.14 £0.00
    pod1 Call  £5.94 £19.08 £17.34
    hamster880 Show
    • 10
    • 10
    		   
    pod1 Show
    • 7
    • 7
    		   
    pod1 Win Full House, 7s and 5s £18.12  £35.46
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    It looks like wobbly legs has been reading the clinic and copying you with his bet sizing!!!!

    20% of the pot on the flop with the nuts.

    25% of the pot on the river with the nuts.

    And a check inbetween.

    Yeh be careful on paired boards, once he flats the flop, and it comes a diamond, the only realistic hand that he could fold is the same hand as you have, ten jack.....You aren't folding out much that beats you, a weak queen maybe, but you have alot of outs to go ahead of that kinda hand, just take your card.....

    Good sizing on the turn if you had the nuts tho ;)

    Edit. re the 77 hand, I said ones where you don't flop the nuts!!!!!!!!!! How do u do it?
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: better?? or too much on turn!:
    Reg22 Small blind   £0.10 £0.10 £21.33 MULDER Big blind   £0.20 £0.30 £6.68 scotty77 Big blind   £0.20 £0.50 £19.80   Your hole cards J 10       scotty77 Check         Sha1979 Fold         wobblylegs Call   £0.20 £0.70 £9.22 pod1 Call   £0.20 £0.90 £18.05 Reg22 Fold         MULDER Check         Flop     K Q K       MULDER Check         scotty77 Check         wobblylegs Bet   £0.20 £1.10 £9.02 pod1 Raise   £0.85 £1.95 £17.20 MULDER Fold         scotty77 Fold         wobblylegs Call   £0.65 £2.60 £8.37 Turn     3       wobblylegs Check         pod1 Bet   £1.95 £4.55 £15.25 wobblylegs Call   £1.95 £6.50 £6.42 River     A       wobblylegs Bet   £1.60 £8.10 £4.82 pod1 Raise   £6.45 £14.55 £8.80 wobblylegs All-in   £4.82 £19.37 £0.00 pod1 Unmatched bet   £0.03 £19.34 £8.83 wobblylegs Show Q K       pod1 Show J 10   me getting cute and getting caught!!
    Posted by pod1
    Jeez, that is some spewy river bet.

    Dohhhhhhh woulda been proud of that!

    I think to give up on the turn would be best, because once he calls your flop reraise you must put him on the K or Q.

    When he bets out on the river, as his first agressive action, he has to have something fairly strong imo. So, with your flush, on that board, it is a flat call on the river imo! er, or a fold!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    i take that as a compliament gregg, i dont get called spewy !! normally, too tight too nitty too weak is the norm!!
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011

    Which goalkeeper actually had wobbly legs?


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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    as a liverpool fan, i can never watch that too many times!!!!!!!!!
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    some wobbly legs hehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UfEQ3gKdHcre to!!
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