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MTT- early stages, facing massive ob otf w/tpgk

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic


£5.50 mtt, about 40 runners, v ealy stages, no notes.

Normal strategy in these is be patient, and double up within the first hour, then ge aggressive when the blinds are big, and stacks are shallow, when the other guys become clueless as they can't see flops anymore.

However, here I was clueless....

Speculative call pre maybe otb....

Basically, do you call/fold here against an unknown?

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
taylor1009 Small blind  15.00 15.00 1875.00
porter11 Big blind  30.00 45.00 1605.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • J
     
don2 Fold     
selwyn09 Fold     
SDarks Raise  120.00 165.00 1517.50
DOHHHHHHH Call  120.00 285.00 1820.00
taylor1009 Call  105.00 390.00 1770.00
porter11 Fold     
Flop
   
  • 5
  • J
  • 6
     
taylor1009 Bet  90.00 480.00 1680.00
SDarks All-in  1517.50 1997.50 0.00
DOHHHHHHH
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited February 2011
    In Response to .:
    0341938912
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Any chance you could post the hand itself? If not, I'll close this.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2011
    aj or trips, either way i think a def fold!
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: MTT- early stages, facing massive ob otf w/tpgk:
    aj or trips, either way i think a def fold!
    Posted by pod1

    its def not a set

    get it in. lose and then don't bubble????

    but yeah looks like a fold tbf
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  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited February 2011
    I dont think we have trips here, we all know in this type of tourny we only limp with pocket 5's or 6's this early, and his 4 x BB raise this early means a higher pocket pair QQ KK AA and the flop is good for his shove here cause he knows he's ahead.

    I'm folding to the shove.
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  • TheWombatTheWombat Member Posts: 7
    edited February 2011

    Fold preflop but as played easy call, like you said double up early

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  • JIMMYMADJIMMYMAD Member Posts: 154
    edited February 2011
    I think the villain has AJ in this situation maybe even trips
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  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: MTT- early stages, facing massive ob otf w/tpgk:
    I dont think we have trips here, we all know in this type of tourny we only limp with pocket 5's or 6's this early, and his 4 x BB raise this early means a higher pocket pair QQ KK AA and the flop is good for his shove here cause he knows he's ahead. I'm folding to the shove.
    Posted by POKERTREV
    Couldn't have put it better myself.
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  • futsalreffutsalref Member Posts: 44
    edited February 2011

    I thought it looked like a big pair also from the initial post. If he is new to MTTs though it may be trips.

    Either way I reluctanly fold especially as there is only the J on the flop for us.

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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited February 2011
    Personally I think the call on the button with KJs is fine. It's only 6% of your stack, you have postion and it's the sort of hand that might win you a huge pot. If you have to lay it down you still have plenty of chips to work with.

    As for the shove, it's a ridiculous bet no matter what your opponent has. Therefore he's probably quite an inexperienced player, you have position on this guy and will get opportunities to stack him later. He could be holding anything from a set of jacks to a straight draw, maybe even air, but you're dominated far too often to justify a call.

    I fold, but I'm confident I can outplay this guy and win back my chips with interest.
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