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NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please

YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
edited February 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Is this a nitty fold?

I cant remember any reads at mo will post if i think of any but my instinct was that im behind
xBig blind  £0.08 £0.08 £7.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
jambo56 Fold     
fish Call  £0.08 £0.16 £17.25
xx Call  £0.08 £0.24 £2.79
YOUNG_GUN Raise  £0.40 £0.64 £7.58
xCall  £0.32 £0.96 £6.68
fishCall  £0.32 £1.28 £16.93
xxCall  £0.32 £1.60 £2.47
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 9
  • Q
     
xBet  £1.20 £2.80 £5.48
fish Fold     
xxRaise  £2.40 £5.20 £0.07
YOUNG_GUN Fold  
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited February 2011
    its an awful fold imo
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2011

    cheers YB i respect that. the reasons for it the donk bet out i  put on some sort of draw Straight or flush, then with the min re-raise i thought they could have a 9. I wont put up results so soon as i am seeing whether its only me who folds here, im such a nit.....  ;)

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2011
    The donk lead is a queen, the over-raise is a draw, get it in.
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please:
    cheers YB i respect that. the reasons for it the donk bet out i  put on some sort of draw Straight or flush, then with the min re-raise i thought they could have a 9. I wont put up results so soon as i am seeing whether its only me who folds here, im such a nit.....  ;)
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    they could have a 9 but most times they won't, just get stacks in because you're massively ahead of both of their ranges.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited February 2011
    With what he had left you can't fold there imo.........
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited February 2011
    A9 vs Q10 or on them lines i dont think its a terrible fold because when these passive fish start betting they have it, yeah your ahead of their range pf but thats about it, if you get it in you would need the donker to come along
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2011
    This is basically still 4NL in essence and from I gathered most bad players ONLY raise with the goods and the minraise is so so so so so **** horrible in everyway as it leaves 7p behind he really wants a call.

    The bet from x is just some weakish Q imo so I'd say it's best sticking it in and trying to win what he has left behind as xx can't hurt you.
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  • 5toneFace5toneFace Member Posts: 246
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please:
    This is basically still 4NL in essence and from I gathered most bad players ONLY raise with the goods and the minraise is so so so so so **** horrible in everyway as it leaves 7p behind he really wants a call. The bet from x is just some weakish Q imo so I'd say it's best sticking it in and trying to win what he has left behind as xx can't hurt you.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Do you mean only bad players raise with a 9 here, or it is bad for Young_Gun because they have raised??

    I hope your not saying he is bad if hes raising with a 9
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  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited February 2011
    In Response to NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please:
    Is this a nitty fold? I cant remember any reads at mo will post if i think of any but my instinct was that im behind x Big blind   £0.08 £0.08 £7.00   Your hole cards K K       jambo56 Fold         fish  Call   £0.08 £0.16 £17.25 xx  Call   £0.08 £0.24 £2.79 YOUNG_GUN Raise   £0.40 £0.64 £7.58 x Call   £0.32 £0.96 £6.68 fish Call   £0.32 £1.28 £16.93 xx Call   £0.32 £1.60 £2.47 Flop     9 9 Q       x Bet   £1.20 £2.80 £5.48 fish  Fold         xx Raise   £2.40 £5.20 £0.07 YOUNG_GUN Fold  
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    nice image building YG.. :)
    lol honesty i think its a fold here like a few above had said Q for donk bet
    and 9 for min raiser.. fold !!
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please:
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please : Do you mean only bad players raise with a 9 here, or it is bad for Young_Gun because they have raised?? I hope your not saying he is bad if hes raising with a 9
    Posted by 5toneFace
    No I mean MOST bad players just call call call and when they raise they usually have something.

    Here the guy has 7p behind so should have went all in but because he's BAD imo he just minraises as he doesn't undertand the game yet to realise it's all going in anyway but thinks oooh I'll just minraise he he he. Raising with the 9 is ok but with his stack it's just an all in.
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited February 2011
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please:
    In Response to Re: NL8 Nitty fold with Kings? discuss please : No I mean MOST bad players just call call call and when they raise they usually have something. Here the guy has 7p behind so should have went all in but because he's BAD imo he just minraises as he doesn't undertand the game yet to realise it's all going in anyway but thinks oooh I'll just minraise he he he. Raising with the 9 is ok but with his stack it's just an all in.
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    you wouldnt believe ive seen people do this then fold to a re-raise would you?

    Yea as said i dont think the fold is that bad tbh, At best we're against a Q and a draw. What ive not seen anyone saying is someone would raise to protect a 9 against a draw, or even donk bet a 9 for that reason icase the PFR doesnt make a c-bet?  
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited February 2011

    Person who donk bet had Q10, other person had 45 suited. so i was ahead when it went in but 45 suited hit flush, so bad fold but good result

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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited February 2011
    even if the minraiser shows you 9x  the sidepot with the original donk bettor will be big enough to make a profit on the hand
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