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he knew what i had and still called

DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
edited March 2011 in Poker Chat
In the £22 deep stack the blinds are 40 80 a player raises to 220 I reraise to 860 player A calls. IM holding KK flop comes J 3 7 all the chips go in. Anyway he wins with trip 3s. I asked him what he thought I had preflop and he says AA KK or AK lol I said nh sarcasticly. You just cant get some people off a hand......

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  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited March 2011
    You dont mention chip stacks or position! but once the flop came you were doomed lol!!
  • DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    You dont mention chip stacks or position! but once the flop came you were doomed lol!!
    Posted by loonytoons
    sorry he was first to act and I had about 6500 and he had about 3300
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited March 2011

    His mistake and your bad luck was the initial raise by him, once he done that, i reckon your raise gave him some 'hope' really you shoulda shoved here, yeh maybe he still called but better than a poxy 860 into a 440 pot! But unlucky though but im sure that dont help ya, but you get a lot of chancers here and elsewhere (including me lol) and you just gotta take the rough with the smooth

  • jamieloujamielou Member Posts: 232
    edited March 2011
    If you could see his cards pre-flop you'd be begging him to call :-)
  • DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    If you could see his cards pre-flop you'd be begging him to call :-)
    Posted by jamielou
    yes deffinately I want to sit with these players all day long it just made me laugh when he said he thought i was holding AA KK or AK.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,189
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : yes deffinately I want to sit with these players all day long it just made me laugh when he said he thought i was holding AA KK or AK.
    Posted by DO_OR_DIE
    If he knows you have A-A or K-K, the call is not that bad, as he knows he stacks you if he hits. It's called implied odds.

    You were unlucky, but his play is not that bad, imo.
  • DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : If he knows you have A-A or K-K, the call is not that bad, as he knows he stacks you if he hits. It's called implied odds . You were unlucky, but his play is not that bad, imo.
    Posted by Tikay10
    hmmm interesting so your saying its ok to put a quarter of your stack in on a 2 outer when you have 40 big blinds?
  • DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : hmmm interesting so your saying its ok to put a quarter of your stack in on a 2 outer when you have 40 big blinds?
    Posted by DO_OR_DIE
    ps. i do value your opinion :(
  • LENGALENGLENGALENG Member Posts: 337
    edited March 2011
    this is more like it, long live the GPC!!!!
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : hmmm interesting so your saying its ok to put a quarter of your stack in on a 2 outer when you have 40 big blinds?
    Posted by DO_OR_DIE
    but it was not a quarter, he already had chips in when you raised and he did not know he had 2 outers, which he did not anyway, he coulda hit the straight lol, and as for 40 bb, in this tourney and this early people will take a punt
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,189
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : hmmm interesting so your saying its ok to put a quarter of your stack in on a 2 outer when you have 40 big blinds?
    Posted by DO_OR_DIE
    Well I said "his play is not that bad", & I don't think it's great, but I'm trying to explain to you his potential thinking.

    I think if you asked that question of a lot of decent players, they might - might - make a case for the "implied odds" argument. NOT if he thinks you have, say, 8-8, or A-K, that's very different. But specifically against A-A or K-K, when he KNOWS he will stack you if he binks the set, really, the play is not anything like as bad as you are suggesting.

    It's certainly not a play I'd mock, or laugh at. And if I have the A-A or K-K, I'm happy if he calls me with 3-3. Most times...... We can't have our cake & eat it.

    When we have A-A or K-K & get no action, we often cry a little bit. But when we get action & & we get outdrawn, we cry a little more...... 
  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : If he knows you have A-A or K-K, the call is not that bad, as he knows he stacks you if he hits. It's called implied odds . You were unlucky, but his play is not that bad, imo.
    Posted by Tikay10
    is this not what i said? in a round a bout way lol?????
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,189
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : is this not what i said? in a round a bout way lol?????
    Posted by loonytoons[/
    QUOTE]

    Absolutely. More the merrier, too. It's potentially an interesting thread, imo. 
  • DO_OR_DIEDO_OR_DIE Member Posts: 22
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called:
    In Response to Re: he knew what i had and still called : Well I said "his play is not that bad", & I don't think it's great, but I'm trying to explain to you his potential thinking. I think if you asked that question of a lot of decent players, they might - might - make a case for the "implied odds" argument. NOT if he thinks you have, say, 8-8, or A-K, that's very different. But specifically against A-A or K-K, when he KNOWS he will stack you if he binks the set, really, the play is not anything like as bad as you are suggesting. It's certainly not a play I'd mock, or laugh at. And if I have the A-A or K-K, I'm happy if he calls me with 3-3. Most times...... We can't have our cake & eat it. When we have A-A or K-K & get no action, we often cry a little bit. But when we get action & & we get outdrawn, we cry a little more...... 
    Posted by Tikay10
    ok lets call it a draw on this one lol. keep up the good work TK and thanks for the advice to all thats replied :)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,189
    edited March 2011

    Thanks Mr Die.

    These are exactly the sort of threads we need Members to start, & contribute to.
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