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Did I make the right move?

djgrevodjgrevo Member Posts: 59
edited March 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Two aggressive players, raise and a call, I squeeze hoping to get people off a hand like ace jack and if we get called its coin flip that if we win we are bossing the tourney. What do you guys think to this play?
Regards
Dan
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancebudgirlSmall blind 50.0050.00645.00djgrevoBig blind 100.00150.004255.00 Your hole cards88   The_DramFold    rosjim1Raise 500.00650.005580.00TRAXFold    mrparish82Call 500.001150.002227.50budgirlFold    djgrevoAll-in 4255.005405.000.00rosjim1All-in 5580.0010985.000.00mrparish82Fold    rosjim1Unmatched bet 1725.009260.001725.00djgrevoShow88   rosjim1ShowAK   Flop  376   Turn  A   River  J   rosjim1WinPair of Aces9260.00 10985.00
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  • thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
    edited March 2011
    42 bbs left you can pick far better spots,i have come to learn that this is not a great play,especially so early in the tourny.Think you were lucky not to be facing an overpair,overcards was the best poss result for you,even then 50/50 far far to soon in the tournament for me.

     flat call the raise, and the re elvaluate or fold
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited March 2011
    i think shoving 40+bbs over a 5x open is pretty spewy
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Did I make the right move?:
    i think shoving 40+bbs over a 5x open is pretty spewy
    Posted by LOL_RAISE
    What would you do? just fold?

    Can you set mine for 5xbb from 40xbb stack?

    Or are you flatting pre to float certain flops? If you get a good flop to float, and he checks the turn to you, are you just checking back looking for showdown?

    I hate playing hands like this in spots like this (stack sizes) in tournys, I just end up bleeding off 1.5k.

    How good/bad an option is just folding pre? as that's what I'd probably do if it was just the 5x open in front of me. I would have to call here tho with a 5x open and a call coz I can't resist.

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  • thejudge10thejudge10 Member Posts: 465
    edited March 2011
    same hand but different situation,now i think this is the correct push.
    TISBA Small blind  600.00 600.00 16392.50
    peter_1961 Big blind  1200.00 1800.00 11175.00
      Your hole cards
    • 8
    • 8
    		     
    ronin99 Call  1200.00 3000.00 36495.00
    thejudge10 All-in  5990.00 8990.00 0.00
    pete444 Fold     
    rob1990 Fold     
    TISBA All-in  16392.50 25382.50 0.00
    peter_1961 Fold     
    ronin99 Fold     
    TISBA Unmatched bet  11002.50 14380.00 11002.50
    TISBA Show
    • Q
    • A
    		   
    thejudge10 Show
    • 8
    • 8
    		   
    Flop
       
    • 3
    • 6
    • 10
    		     
    Turn
       
    • 7
    		     
    River
       
    • Q
    		     
    TISBA Win Pair of Queens 14380.00  25382.50
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Did I make the right move?:
    same hand but different situation,now i think this is the correct push. TISBA Small blind   600.00 600.00 16392.50 peter_1961 Big blind   1200.00 1800.00 11175.00   Your hole cards 8 8       ronin99 Call   1200.00 3000.00 36495.00 thejudge10 All-in   5990.00 8990.00 0.00 pete444 Fold         rob1990 Fold         TISBA All-in   16392.50 25382.50 0.00 peter_1961 Fold         ronin99 Fold         TISBA Unmatched bet   11002.50 14380.00 11002.50 TISBA Show Q A       thejudge10 Show 8 8       Flop     3 6 10       Turn     7       River     Q       TISBA Win Pair of Queens 14380.00   25382.50 Prev Close window Next
    Posted by thejudge10
     
    +1, without a doubt.
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Did I make the right move?:
    In Response to Re: Did I make the right move? : What would you do? just fold? Can you set mine for 5xbb from 40xbb stack? Or are you flatting pre to float certain flops? If you get a good flop to float, and he checks the turn to you, are you just checking back looking for showdown? I hate playing hands like this in spots like this (stack sizes) in tournys, I just end up bleeding off 1.5k. How good/bad an option is just folding pre? as that's what I'd probably do if it was just the 5x open in front of me. I would have to call here tho with a 5x open and a call coz I can't resist
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    since were in the BB and its only another 4bb to call id probably go set mining (note im not a great tourney player and this might be bad), i wouldnt really float many flops tbh as were oop and i credit peoples 5x range to be really strong

    agree soooooooo much with bolded part
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited March 2011
    I dont think its profitable to set mine (button does sweeten it a bit tho), iv heard the rule of 12 used alot but i think it should be deeper, everything about this spot is awkward, open size, button call, stack sizes, when i first looked at this hand i thought the shove was terrible.....im not so sure now
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