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Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited March 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Mid way through first hour of a deepy, table pretty loose passive had a few c-bets get through but a lot of flat calling hardly any raises. X here is an uba fish, loves a call and has already flatted 2 raises from me so far pre flop.

Of course with tens you don't get that many good flops so this looked a nice one so bet out standard 3/4ish, then X lituarlly click raised to 2k...... what to do ?
Dudeskin8 Small blind   15.00 15.00 5625.00
X Big blind   30.00 45.00 4650.00
  Your hole cards
  • 10
  • 10
     
MRDICKIE Fold        
Tayin Fold        
lisar83 Call   30.00 75.00 4260.00
MrSofty Call   30.00 105.00 5840.00
Dudeskin8 Raise   180.00 285.00 5445.00
X Call   165.00 450.00 4485.00
lisar83 Fold        
MrSofty Call   165.00 615.00 5675.00
Flop
   
  • 9
  • 7
  • 4
     
Dudeskin8 Bet   480.00 1095.00 4965.00
X Raise   2055.00 3150.00 2430.00
MrSofty Fold        
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  • CLIOKIDCLIOKID Member Posts: 783
    edited March 2011
    Ship it.
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited March 2011
    how has villain been playing post flop? would he do this with fd, a big nine,? is he passive post flop?
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....:
    Ship it.
    Posted by CLIOKID
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....:
    how has villain been playing post flop? would he do this with fd, a big nine,? is he passive post flop?
    Posted by N1CK
    Mainly stays in C/C mode, have hardly seen them do anything else.
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  • Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
    edited March 2011
    Fold.
    You're putting half your chips at risk on the flop and you may be asked to put em all in on the turn. Yeah, he may have A9 or a flush draw (unlikely) but it looks a lot like a set.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....:
    Fold. You're putting half your chips at risk on the flop and you may be asked to put em all in on the turn. Yeah, he may have A9 or a flush draw (unlikely) but it looks a lot like a set.
    Posted by Seagull158
    This was my thinking but with the above replies I'm wondering whether I'm being too nitty folding in these spots....
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  • Seagull158Seagull158 Member Posts: 1,100
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....:
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise..... : This was my thinking but with the above replies I'm wondering whether I'm being too nitty folding in these spots....
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    On a cash table I'd ship it but in a deepie defo fold.
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  • kim1986kim1986 Member Posts: 13
    edited March 2011

    wot  seems to happen to me alot is a pair of jj or higher ,9 hi board i put them all in they call wiv 999.i lose,,set probly

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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise.....:
    In Response to Re: Overpair on flop, bet get massive raise..... : On a cash table I'd ship it but in a deepie defo fold.
    Posted by Seagull158
    as he thinks hes passive i would fold if it was cash and i would fold here also
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  • delaney09delaney09 Member Posts: 1,145
    edited March 2011
    only thing you can really put him on is an overpair would they do that with a set cause your c/bet is not exactly indicating your on a flush draw so he would be flatting all day surely, probably A-9 he is re raising pre with Qs Ks As AK only thing you can really put him on is Js which he is unlikely to re raise with pre then put himself in a predicament if you then re raise him i would shove then sigh when he turns over A-9 and the A comes on the river
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited March 2011
    ill take a stab saying the guy has 44 no raise pre indicates your one pair hand is likley the better one. Maybe a couple of overs + FD but then hes probably more likley to just flat way youve described his play.

    Fold probab;y besy here
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited March 2011
    when a passive raises that much they think they have the nuts but i guess they can show up with A9 K9 but i still think its a fold
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