A couple of difficult cash hands from a novice! Help Please.

DrSharp

Hi, i just wondered if anyone could check out a couple of hands i played earlier today, these are the hands that causd me a few problems.

Hand 1.
Villain had just joined table and short stacked which usually means they are here more to gamble than play the game on these tables in my experience. No real reads on villain. Found myself with pocket 8's and wanted a cheap look at the flop to see if i could hit my set. I won the hand in the end but was'nt happy with the way i played it. Just wanted some input whether this is correct or not.

Hand History #350882400 (11:33 12/03/2011)

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
mojo1	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£1.54
softley68	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.43
	Your hole cards	8 8
Villain	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£1.47
DrSharp	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.60
hogweed	Fold
mojo1	Fold
softley68	Check
Flop
		5 9 3
softley68	Check
Villain	Bet		£0.04	£0.18	£1.43
DrSharp	Call		£0.04	£0.22	£4.56
softley68	Fold
Turn
		Q
Villain	Bet		£0.04	£0.26	£1.39
DrSharp	Call		£0.04	£0.30	£4.52
River
		Q
Villain	Bet		£0.04	£0.34	£1.35
DrSharp	Call		£0.04	£0.38	£4.48
Villain	Show	A 10
DrSharp	Show	8 8
DrSharp	Win	Two Pairs, Queens and 8s	£0.35		£4.83

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Hand 2.
Villain in this hand had been quite active and aggressive on the table. Basically, dry flop and i have two overcards when villain makes an overbet. Put villain on a set or possible straight draw and folded. Was it the right move? I find these hard to figure when i have two overcards, i know i dont have a hand but i find them hard to put down.
Hand History #350880645 (11:24 12/03/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceVillain Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.64 mojo1 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.84   Your hole cards J K       softley68 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.97 DrSharp Raise  £0.16 £0.26 £4.99 hogweed Fold     Villain Call  £0.14 £0.40 £1.50 mojo1 Fold     softley68 Call  £0.12 £0.52 £1.85 Flop    8 5 2       Villain Bet  £0.39 £0.91 £1.11 softley68 Fold     DrSharp Fold     Villain Muck     Villain Win  £0.48  £1.59 Villain Return  £0.39 £0.04 £1.98
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Also, just bear in mind that this is 2p/4p cash and there are some extremely weird plays. Thanks.

Seagull158

In Response to A couple of difficult cash hands from a novice! Help Please.:

Hi, i just wondered if anyone could check out a couple of hands i played earlier today, these are the hands that causd me a few problems. Hand 1. Villain had just joined table and short stacked which usually means they are here more to gamble than play the game on these tables in my experience. No real reads on villain. Found myself with pocket 8's and wanted a cheap look at the flop to see if i could hit my set. I won the hand in the end but was'nt happy with the way i played it. Just wanted some input whether this is correct or not. Hand History #350882400 (11:33 12/03/2011) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance mojo1 Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.54 softley68 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £1.43   Your hole cards 8 8       Villain Call   £0.04 £0.10 £1.47 DrSharp Call   £0.04 £0.14 £4.60 hogweed Fold         mojo1 Fold         softley68 Check         Flop     5 9 3       softley68 Check         Villain  Bet   £0.04 £0.18 £1.43 DrSharp Call   £0.04 £0.22 £4.56 softley68 Fold         Turn     Q       Villain  Bet   £0.04 £0.26 £1.39 DrSharp Call   £0.04 £0.30 £4.52 River     Q       Villain  Bet   £0.04 £0.34 £1.35 DrSharp Call   £0.04 £0.38 £4.48 Villain  Show A 10       DrSharp Show 8 8       DrSharp Win Two Pairs, Queens and 8s £0.35   £4.83 ************************************** Hand 2. Villain in this hand had been quite active and aggressive on the table. Basically, dry flop and i have two overcards when villain makes an overbet. Put villain on a set or possible straight draw and folded. Was it the right move? I find these hard to figure when i have two overcards, i know i dont have a hand but i find them hard to put down. Hand History #350880645 (11:24 12/03/2011) Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance Villain  Small blind   £0.02 £0.02 £1.64 mojo1 Big blind   £0.04 £0.06 £3.84   Your hole cards J K       softley68 Call   £0.04 £0.10 £1.97 DrSharp Raise   £0.16 £0.26 £4.99 hogweed Fold         Villain  Call   £0.14 £0.40 £1.50 mojo1 Fold         softley68 Call   £0.12 £0.52 £1.85 Flop     8 5 2       Villain  Bet   £0.39 £0.91 £1.11 softley68 Fold         DrSharp Fold         Villain  Muck         Villain  Win   £0.48   £1.59 Villain  Return   £0.39 £0.04 £1.98 ********************************** Also, just bear in mind that this is 2p/4p cash and there are some extremely weird plays. Thanks.
Posted by DrSharp

First hand I would've rsised 3 or 4*BB PF and then raised 4*BB on the flop.

Seagull158

Second hand villain probably has Ax and figures an overbet on that flop will fold everyone out unless he's very unlucky. So, you've got 2 choices; fold or reraise.

DOHHHHHHH

Looking at the stack sizes in hand one, I'd make a chunky raise pre flop, so you can bet most flops and get the majority of the opponents stack in (put the rest in on the turn)

If it was a smaller pocket pair, I would just limp as you did.

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Hand 2 is fine.

LOL_RAISE

raise pre hand1 cbet flop, probably check back turn and bet river if checked to, hand2 is fine but its not an overbet