not many people fold pocket pairs pre when there has only been the one raise if you fold 2s 3s 4s etc pre flop to just the one raise thats up to you but 9 times out of 10 everyone is going to play 2s for another 7.50 with only one other opponent in the hand.... also 2s are probably the most disregarded hand in poker so if you do hit a set you are 9 times out of 10 getting paid always. Thats why he played the 2s and why everyone will play 2s when there has been no re raise set mining may not always be profitable but when you do hit it with hands like 2s 3s and even 4s you are going to get paid simple as that.
he hit i know. but my question is....... why is he playin 22 preflop big stakes surely its an instant fold. weather he he hit on flop or not ???? Posted by seppe
I hardly ever fold pocket pairs pre-flop, especially in cash games.
he hit i know. but my question is....... why is he playin 22 preflop big stakes surely its an instant fold. weather he he hit on flop or not ???? Posted by seppe
bcos when he hits he can just stack himself for 300 quid. simple
The stakes makes no difference. generally there are good implied odds to calling with any pocket pair to try to "set mine" preflop, if its cheap enough.
Weather it's 4nl or 1000nl makes no difference!!!
Dohhhhhhh got his money in as a big favourite and got ul, give the guy a break please!
The stakes makes no difference. generally there are good implied odds to calling with any pocket pair to try to "set mine" preflop, if its cheap enough. Weather it's 4nl or 1000nl makes no difference!!! Dohhhhhhh got his money in as a big favourite and got ul, give the guy a break please! Posted by GREGHOGG
if it was on the tv tonight the only time i remember seeing pocket 2s was as above have said with DOHHHH who got unfortunate by hitting trips on the flop unless this happened on a table that wasn't shown on the TV tonight I have no idea who your talking about ?? please explain more ? Posted by delaney09
the person is correct. but even so im just sayin it was bad 22 pre flop callin or raisin aint gud. u know 95% u get a call yr behind it wasnt a all in situation so why risk it. ye he hit on flop but surely he shudnt b seein a flop anyway wiv 22 ??? mayb this is1 for poker clinic im just givin my opinion
In Response to Re: how bad was this?????? : the person is correct. but even so im just sayin it was bad 22 pre flop callin or raisin aint gud. u know 95% u get a call yr behind it wasnt a all in situation so why risk it. ye he hit on flop but surely he shudnt b seein a flop anyway wiv 22 ??? mayb this is1 for poker clinic im just givin my opinion Posted by seppe
So basically you're completely ignoring what Greg has written even though it's 100% correct ?
In Response to Re: how bad was this?????? : the person is correct. but even so im just sayin it was bad 22 pre flop callin or raisin aint gud. u know 95% u get a call yr behind it wasnt a all in situation so why risk it. ye he hit on flop but surely he shudnt b seein a flop anyway wiv 22 ??? mayb this is1 for poker clinic im just givin my opinion Posted by seppe
heres a perfect example to back up my post of how disregarded pocket 2s are this was in the 4k gtd on tues. or weds. so not a tiny tournament, this is not a brag of any kind just showing what happens when u do hit big with 2s to a standard 3x PF raise
Dohhhhh frankly out played me in the hand you are talking about and I got lucky. There is an argument for folding 22 OOP on some tables, but not that one.
Dohhhhh frankly out played me in the hand you are talking about and I got lucky. There is an argument for folding 22 OOP on some tables, but not that one. Stakes are irrelevant, Posted by TommyD
heres someone who constantly plays at these stakes, would you have done the exact same thing as what dohhh did tommy and flatted to hit the set and if not just folded the flop right ? its okay me putting in my p.o.v but i don't play these stakes so really have no idea how they go
Dohhhhh frankly out played me in the hand you are talking about and I got lucky. There is an argument for folding 22 OOP on some tables, but not that one. Stakes are irrelevant, Posted by TommyD
tommy my stakes argument was irrevelent......... ok il b the big man & SAY i watched the game & DIDNT realise he hot the set. THERE U GO GO MY POSWT WAS BULLSSSSSSS. My mistake if i was DOHHHHHH id have done the same ALLLL INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN. how many peeps can admit they are wrong & post it liker i just did. HURTS BUT SOWI DOHHHHHHH lol
In Response to Re: how bad was this?????? : heres someone who constantly plays at these stakes, would you have done the exact same thing as what dohhh did tommy and flatted to hit the set and if not just folded the flop right ? its okay me putting in my p.o.v but i don't play these stakes so really have no idea how they go Posted by delaney09
Good question. If I was playing against me there I'm mostly calling preflop with some raises mixed in but when I'm raising I'm playing two napkins (disregarding my hand) rather than a pair of twos. Post flop I mostly play completely differently if I hit the set. If I miss I'm not always folding (will be mostly folding) but I'm back to playing two napkins again then. Now we're looking at flop texture, villain ranges, my own image etc. A fraction of the time I'm calling to reassess, with some bluff leads/check raises for good measure. Playing OOP really sucks though so mostly folding when I miss.
Fwiw, I thought the "big mouth" in question played the hand fantastically. Set mining in cash is always a huge value play due to the implied odds when hitting a hidden set. And I thought the overbet was genius because of how predictable the bet sizes generally seem to be at that level. He also used his image excellently to induce Tommy's jam. 'Ol big mouth just got very unlucky but proved he can mix it at those levels IMO.
Fair play to Tommy for admitting he got outplayed. I agree.
And fair play to OP for admitting he got in wrong too.
Great TV hand though. TK must be gutted at losing his stake.....
Dohhhh played the hand well v this player, he got Tommy to stick his stack in with only 26% equity...........great play then went unrewarded when tommy hit the river.
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If not then i've no idea what you're on about.
Dohhhhhh is the only big mouth round here too
Anyway since when was bluffing off your stack bad? I call it fun.
not many people fold pocket pairs pre when there has only been the one raise if you fold 2s 3s 4s etc pre flop to just the one raise thats up to you but 9 times out of 10 everyone is going to play 2s for another 7.50 with only one other opponent in the hand.... also 2s are probably the most disregarded hand in poker so if you do hit a set you are 9 times out of 10 getting paid always. Thats why he played the 2s and why everyone will play 2s when there has been no re raise set mining may not always be profitable but when you do hit it with hands like 2s 3s and even 4s you are going to get paid simple as that.
The stakes makes no difference. generally there are good implied odds to calling with any pocket pair to try to "set mine" preflop, if its cheap enough.
Weather it's 4nl or 1000nl makes no difference!!!
Dohhhhhhh got his money in as a big favourite and got ul, give the guy a break please!
+1
heres a perfect example to back up my post of how disregarded pocket 2s are this was in the 4k gtd on tues. or weds. so not a tiny tournament, this is not a brag of any kind just showing what happens when u do hit big with 2s to a standard 3x PF raise
Dohhhhh frankly out played me in the hand you are talking about and I got lucky. There is an argument for folding 22 OOP on some tables, but not that one.
Stakes are irrelevant,
heres someone who constantly plays at these stakes, would you have done the exact same thing as what dohhh did tommy and flatted to hit the set and if not just folded the flop right ? its okay me putting in my p.o.v but i don't play these stakes so really have no idea how they go
Fair play to Tommy for admitting he got outplayed. I agree.
And fair play to OP for admitting he got in wrong too.
Great TV hand though. TK must be gutted at losing his stake.....