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Was I a "River Donk"

JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
edited March 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Hi Guys,

After winning this hand I was called a River donk.

yes I hit on the river,  but my view was the bet on the Turn wasn't big enough to chase of my 2 pair.  Opinions?

Hope the hand shows OK,  doesn't always work with Safari 

Hand History #354961945 (15:41 24/03/2011)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceV1Small blind 15.0015.002270.00v2Big blind 30.0045.002000.00 Your hole cardsJK   JockBMWRaise 90.00135.001860.00V3Fold    V4Fold    VillanCall 90.00225.001870.00V1Fold    V2Fold    Flop  5JK   JockBMWCheck    VillanCheck    Turn  10   JockBMWCheck    VillanBet 112.50337.501757.50JockBMWCall 112.50450.001747.50River  J   JockBMWCheck    VillanBet 180.00630.001577.50JockBMWAll-in 1747.502377.500.00VillanCall 1567.503945.0010.00JockBMWShowJK   VillanShowQ9   JockBMWWinFull House, Jacks and Kings3945.00 3945.00
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  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited March 2011
    Depends if you believed he had the straight or not. You were 9% to hit your house, so unless you were putting him on a worse two pair or semibluff heart draw you may well be a River donk. :}
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited March 2011
    Lol, your kidding right?

    You slow play the flop, he bets half pot when you hold top two and he's hit a 4 outer, then you redraw the 4 outer.

    He's dominated, get lucky, you get lucky back. 

    Only thing questionable is the raise with KJo UTG

    He's 18% off the flop, sick for him that he makes his hand on the turn, but that doesnt make you a donk, the opposite in fact, you go for max value on the river and get it.


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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited March 2011

    What was the thinking behind checking the flop?

    Then more alarmingly, the turn,....... ?
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Was I a "River Donk":
    What was th e thinking b ehind ch ecking th e flop? Th en mor e alarmingly, th e turn,....... ?
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH


    To be honest after the flop I was totally convinced that I was ahead so checked it to try and trap him into betting.

    After the straight draw hit I decided to check it to see what he did,  his half pot bet was small enough that I was willing to call as I would still have had enough behind to be int he game.

    If I had missed the river and he had bet again I would have folded 

    Would have cost me a few chips but not crippled me.

    Does that make sense? 

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited March 2011
    In Response to Re: Was I a "River Donk":
    In Response to Re: Was I a "River Donk" : To be honest after the flop I was totally convinced that I was ahead so checked it to try and trap him into betting. After the straight draw hit I decided to check it to see what he did,  his half pot bet was small enough that I was willing to call as I would still have had enough behind to be int he game. If I had missed the river and he had bet again I would have folded  Would have cost me a few chips but not crippled me. Does that make sense? 
    Posted by JockBMW
    So bet !!! lol

    It makes sense yeh, but the board is draw heavy, 2 high cards and a flush draw, you need to bet - , to firstly protect your hand, and secondly, make the pot worth winning!

    The way you've played it, you're only ever gonna win a big pot if it's a total cooler.

    The times he has a flush draw, weaker top pair, straight draw etc, u're never gonna win any chips.

    Big hand = bet bet bet.

    U weren't a river donk though, nh.  ;)


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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited March 2011
    Bet every street, watching you check that flop OOP makes me want to cry.
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited March 2011
    No, you were not a river donk as you got paid the maximum in the end.. But....

    You were a flop and turn donk for the reasons given by Dohhhhhhh :)

    You got a nice hand on a vulnerable board so BET IT! We can't rely on others to do our betting for us on that sort of board imo.

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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited March 2011
    Many Thanks Guys,

    Advice taken in.  Muchly appreciated 

    (P.S.  Used it to good effect in a live game last night.   Cheers )


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