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£220 D/S

hurst05hurst05 Member Posts: 1,567
edited April 2011 in Poker Chat

i know sky like to have this fit into tv time etc but i think the structure needs adjusting somewhat. i know quite a few regs will agree but may not want to say anything but a £220 tournament was over in less than 4 hours. 

yes there were 60 runners but it would be nice if after an hour or so the average stack wasnt 10 big blinds. the edges for the players dramatically decreased because it was a game of mathmatical shove or fold poker like you usually see on the final table, but this was when there were still around half the field left. 

I think for a big tourny with a big buyin it needs alot more play. just my 2 pennies worth...




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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 174,186
    edited April 2011


    This WILL be discussed by the Management Team next week. A whole range of parameters need to be considered, though.



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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited April 2011
    In Response to £220 D/S:
    i know sky like to have this fit into tv time etc but i think the structure needs adjusting somewhat.  i know quite a  few regs will agree but may not want to say anything but a £220 tournament was  over in less than 4 hours.  yes there were 60 runners but it would be nice if after an hour or so the average stack wasnt 10 big blinds.  the edges for the players dramatically decreased because it was a game of mathmatical shove or fold poker  like you usually see on the final table, but this was when there were still around half the field left.  I think for a big tourny with a big buyin it needs alot more play. just my 2 pennies worth...
    Posted by hurst05

    Totally agree with this. This structure for a £20-£50 would be ok but for £220 it's too shove and hope from the mid-point. Having said that it's good to watch.

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  • Wacko90Wacko90 Member Posts: 906
    edited April 2011
    I agree with you hurst! Seems like every time i play this tourney i go card dead and end up having to push and raise with very average hands. Would be nice to be able to wait for an hour and still have enough chips to play around with but thats never the case!
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2011
    ur all nits. i shoved in 6k in level 2/3 with AQ.  NITS I TELL YEEE

    get the chips in :)
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited April 2011
    I have to say that, from an outsiders point of view, the format does make for very exciting Poker 

    I do appreciate your point though Hurst,  If I was playing in it I would be agreeing with you 100% 
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  • hurst05hurst05 Member Posts: 1,567
    edited April 2011
    no problem, glad its being looked at. trial and error, and hopefully it can become bigger and better.
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  • BrownnDogBrownnDog Member Posts: 729
    edited April 2011
    If any touranent on here needs its structure looking at then it's the VLV final.
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  • GELDYGELDY Member Posts: 5,203
    edited April 2011
    Agreed totally re D/S. Rose to the dizzy heights of 5th after a couple of hours. Looked down a little later and was back in 14th - not sure I'd even played a hand - and realised I was being gobbled up by the blinds
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  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited April 2011
    I would agree with this point also - was a bit quick
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    If any touranent on here needs its structure looking at then it's the VLV final.
    Posted by BrownnDog

    VLV final is fine,  no point taking someone who isnt a luckbox to vegas EH COXY
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S : VLV final is fine,  no point taking someone who isnt a luckbox to vegas EH COXY
    Posted by LOL_RAISE

    HAHAHAHAAHHA WELL SAID
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  • simuksimuk Member Posts: 315
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S : HAHAHAHAAHHA WELL SAID
    Posted by beaneh
    You can't talk Beaneh, no one runs hotter than you. 
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S : You can't talk Beaneh, no one runs hotter than you. 
    Posted by simuk

    levels upon levels..



    pots upon kettles upon pots.
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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited April 2011
    Stop crying hursty,you know the format before you play so if you dont like it then dont play it,simplez really eh?
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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    Stop crying hursty,you know the format before you play so if you dont like it then dont play it,simplez really eh?
    Posted by debdobs_67
    I think when someone forks out £220 on a tourny entry they have a right to voice their opinion on how it can be improved tbf
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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S : I think when someone forks out £220 on a tourny entry they have a right to voice their opinion on how it can be improved tbf
    Posted by yb
    Agreed.  And Tikay immediately acknowledged that it will be discussed by the management.

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  • loonytoonsloonytoons Member Posts: 4,270
    edited April 2011
    Is it not a 12 minute clock so after an hour the blinds are 50/100, with starting stacks of 4000 surely the average would not be 10BB as that would be 1000 chips? the most they could do would be 5000 chips and 15minute blinds as in vlv but to finish in time it would need to start about 6pm!! I cant see what they could alter if they have to screen it on a live show, unless they run it as a highlights show on friday, but that would be rubbish, maybe they could run it on saturdays and start at 6pm - i'll stop now im waffling lol
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2011
    i think start earlier and 15min blinds, i dont play it but should allow for more
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: £220 D/S:
    Stop crying hursty,you know the format before you play so if you dont like it then dont play it,simplez really eh?
    Posted by debdobs_67
    don't open threads unless they say 2.20DS next time maybe?

    kthxbai
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited April 2011
    Start the tourny an hour earlier, start the show an hour later, shows are too long, 3 hours is plenty.

    Have the presenter/analyst/s watching the table/s for a couple of hours, noting hands, table dynamics, history etc, so they are in a better position to analyse the hands in more depth. 

    Another slash as I seem to be slash happy /
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