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Always be betting turn here?

scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
edited April 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Or do I have the board so locked I can give a free one?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
jdarko Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £33.29
millerz1 Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £24.96
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
pryce6 Raise   £1.50 £2.25 £100.32
scotty77 Raise   £4.00 £6.25 £49.55
hurst05 Fold        
Bizzy11 Fold        
jdarko Fold        
millerz1 Fold        
pryce6 Call   £2.50 £8.75 £97.82
Flop
   
  • 10
  • A
  • 2
     
pryce6 Check        
scotty77 Bet   £5.00 £13.75 £44.55
pryce6 Call   £5.00 £18.75 £92.82
Turn
   
  • 10
     
pryce6 Check        
scotty77 Check        
River
   
  • 3
     
pryce6 Bet   £10.50 £29.25 £82.32
scotty77 All-in   £44.55 £73.80 £0.00
pryce6 Fold        
scotty77 Muck        
scotty77 Win   £37.95   £37.95
scotty77 Return   £34.05 £1.80 £72.00

Comments

  • SILEEKSILEEK Member Posts: 55
    edited April 2011
    I am a long bus ride away from being an expert, but I am betting
    bigger than you did when flopping a third Ace, and if he/she is still loitering
    when the full house lands on the turn, I am shoving :-)
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited April 2011
    Of course bet on turn, that's where you build the pot nicely for a shove on river, especially after he's already called the £5 on flop. Although maybe I'm not thinking enough 5th level and maybe checking shows weakness so he goes for a river steal but I never play players who think like that so just stick to the basics.
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited April 2011
    i think your only getting value on the turn if he has  the case Ace, you can induce a bluff or hero call and get two streets of value, you will be checking air and marginal hands here alot and it can get you cheap showdowns in later hands too?
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2011
    totally agree about flop bet size.

    me and Pryce have some meta game.  he can call me with like JJ here.  if I fire turn my thinking is that I fold out so many hands that are marginal/lose value from him bluffing with stuff like KQs on the river.

    only hand that I should be getting value from turn here is AK/AQ and considering we have 2 of them thats unlikely.

    would like Pryce to show what hand he had!!!
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited April 2011
    Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance
    jdarko Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £33.29
    millerz1 Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £24.96
      Your hole cards
    • 2
    • 2
         
    pryce6 Raise   £1.50 £2.25 £100.32
    scotty77 Raise   £4.00 £6.25 £49.55
    hurst05 Fold        
    Bizzy11 Fold        
    jdarko Fold        
    millerz1 Fold        
    pryce6 Call   £2.50 £8.75 £97.82
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • A
    • 2
         
    pryce6 Check        
    scotty77 Bet   £5.00 £13.75 £44.55
    pryce6 Call   £5.00 £18.75 £92.82
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    pryce6 Check        
    scotty77 Check        
    River
       
    • 3
         
    pryce6 Bet   £10.50 £29.25 £82.32
    scotty77 All-in   £44.55 £73.80 £0.00
    pryce6 Fold        
    scotty77 Muck        
    scotty77 Win   £37.95   £37.95
    scotty77 Return   £34.05 £1.80 £72.00
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited April 2011
    looooool

    U must have edited that HH somehow.


  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2011
    so tilted

    so so tilted
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Always be betting turn here?:
    looooool U must have edited that HH somehow.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    this is a serious discussion dohhh, a sensible input would be appreciated
  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited April 2011
    calling 3bets with 22 is questionable.
  • pr1nnyraidpr1nnyraid Member Posts: 495
    edited April 2011
    thats an unbeleivable fold, this is a bit weird tho cos Scotty77 says bcos of ur metagame he thinks u can call with JJ here, so if thats his thinking he can easily be shoving the river lighter than a FH for value eg. 10 9. But by the same token he is far less likely to bluff shove the river if he thinks he will get a call from that wider range. 

    oddly i think u 100% get it all in if pryce had position on you.
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2011
    Hope to god the 22 is shopped.

    you cant do anything wrong here scotty bet or check on turn is fine.
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Always be betting turn here?:
    totally agree about flop bet size. me and Pryce have some meta game.  he can call me with like JJ here.  if I fire turn my thinking is that I fold out so many hands that are marginal/lose value from him bluffing with stuff like KQs on the river. only hand that I should be getting value from turn here is AK/AQ and considering we have 2 of them thats unlikely. would like Pryce to show what hand he had!!!
    Posted by scotty77
    whats wrong with the flop bet size?
    and pryce what did you really have?
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Always be betting turn here?:
    Hope to god the 22 is shopped. you cant do anything wrong here scotty bet or check on turn is fine.
    Posted by beaneh
    come on now, would I really try and level Scotty like that?
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