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Must have missed a bet here?

AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
edited April 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Playing a 180 seater $50 NLHE S+G.

Pays last 18 gets down to the last 30. 

Blinds 300/600 (60), I'm sat with around 23000

I get moved table, first hand I pick up AcAs UTG

I make it 1425 to go.  Only the BB calls, pots stands around 3200

8h6h3d

Opponent checks, i bet 1950, he calls

8h6h3d   Ad

Pot stands at 7200, Opponent checks, i bet out 3500.  Opponent mis raises to 7000.  I feel strongly that I'm way ahead, flat hoping he'll fire the river.

8h6h3d Ad  10h

He checks the river.  I'm at a bit of a loss as to what to do.  I dont really like the heart, but I never really felt that he was strong.  He's got a fair amount of chips behind (me covered).  I'm not going to like the check raise again, plus I check I get to see his hand which will be useful later on, as he is the only one who can hurt me and will be sat on my right throughout.

I check, he mucks.  I lookup the hand, he'd been posturing with 103o, improving to two pair at the river.  Definately think he'd call a smallish river value bet, maybe half pot. - Also just been moved table, no info on anyone.

Did the fringe benefits outweigh the missed bet? (info)

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  • ybyb Member Posts: 1,471
    edited April 2011
    easy shove imo
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited April 2011
    I bet both flop and turn a little bigger for value

    I prob just shove turn, this is usually a strong line, calling is prob ok too once you are willing to get it in on any river

    River is an easy valueshove. Villain c/r is very unlikely even if u bet small and you could never b/f given pot odds

    I would rather the chips than the info in a shallowstacked tournament situation
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2011
    Yes vb, I agree it would have been an easy shove, but i felt almost certain he'd fold.  So if that is the case, do you prefer to see his hand by checking back? (if he's just going to fold anyhow?)
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Must have missed a bet here?:
    I bet both flop and turn a little bigger for value I prob just shove turn, this is usually a strong line, calling is prob ok too once you are willing to get it in on any river River is an easy valueshove. Villain c/r is very unlikely even if u bet small and you could never b/f given pot odds I would rather the chips than the info in a shallowstacked tournament situation
    Posted by grantorino

    Yeah I think there's a lot of truth here.  I like to make my leadouts have the appearance of probes here though, hoping to induce action or a float.  I think if i had made it 2100-2500 he folds and its over.  Am still in the s+g, with him on my right so will see if the info helps going to the final table.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2011
    yuk, fired 16BB with AQ from the button, got looked u by the BB with KJo (for most of his stack) hit a K.  Finished 8th.  Hate it.  Weirdly felt that was the hand i was going to get looked up by when i shoved....
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  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2011
    bet fold river. checking back is like stabbing yourself in the leg, don't do it!
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2011
    Even though i felt he'd fold (i didnt know he'd improved)  He'd played the hand oddly and i wanted to know what with! :p
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  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Must have missed a bet here?:
    Even though i felt he'd fold (i didnt know he'd improved)  He'd played the hand oddly and i wanted to know what with! :p
    Posted by AMYBR
    you are losing value now and longterm, size your bet with how thin you think it is
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: Must have missed a bet here?:
    In Response to Re: Must have missed a bet here? : you are losing value now and longterm, size your bet with how thin you think it is
    Posted by N1CK

    Yeah your right, I let my desire to see his hand outweigh my judgment.  I get called by any decent A, if he folds thats really all the info i need.  He's not folding a set two pair in all likelyhood.

    I feel pretty dumb overall today with this and my other thread.  Becoming evident i've always underestimated online opponents.
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