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MTT, tight fold?
DOHHHHHHH
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I've been opening alot of pots, with abit of success, taking alot of pots down pre flop. A couple of times the annoying nitty shorty to my left has jammed over my raises and I have had to fold, but generally I'm getting my own way with the table. (his stack isn't showing but was around 9-12 bbs for like an hour)
I haven't even really been flatted much, if at all, I can't remember having to play a pot, the table was pretty tight. If Greg wasn't on my left I'd be opening much more but I had to be abit more selective than normal.
The big blind is very abc, and will be playing solid cards. They are quite passive, and will check call with medium strength hands, and be more inclined to raise with strong hands,
A hand I saw them play earlier in an unraised pot.
BB checked after an utg limper and bet/called on a T high dry flop, leaving a psb behind. The turn was a King, so K T x x on the board, and BB jammed, looked up by slowplayed aces utg, and showed KTo for top 2.
When I get c/r on the flop I'm v worried despite flopping well.
The chunky turn lead just made me think I can't ever be good here. It must be AT, or a set....
Is a fold here too tight?
| Player | Action | Cards | Amount | Pot | Balance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| olliepokr1 | Small blind | 200.00 | 200.00 | 10049.50 | |
| xxx | Big blind | 400.00 | 600.00 | 10930.00 | |
| Your hole cards |
| ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Raise | 825.00 | 1425.00 | 11180.00 | |
| GREGHOGG | Fold | ||||
| bigbow1507 | Fold | ||||
| olliepokr1 | Fold | ||||
| xxx | Call | 425.00 | 1850.00 | 10505.00 | |
| Flop | |||||
| |||||
| xxx | Check | ||||
| DOHHHHHHH | Bet | 985.00 | 2835.00 | 10195.00 | |
| xxx | Raise | 1970.00 | 4805.00 | 8535.00 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Call | 985.00 | 5790.00 | 9210.00 | |
| Turn | |||||
| |||||
| xxx | Bet | 4000.00 | 9790.00 | 4535.00 | |
| DOHHHHHHH | Fold | ||||
| xxx | Muck | ||||
| xxx | Win | 5790.00 | 10325.00 | ||
| xxx | Return | 4000.00 | 0.00 | 14325.00 | |
Comments
Impossible to believe the 2 on the turn has improved his position, so if you
were committed to your hand prior to this, I am really surprised he managed to get you
to fold after betting on sight of a nothing card.
To answer your question therefore, a camel's a rse in a sandstorm could not be any
tighter than you were then :-)
I don't mind the fold. I always say it's better to make a bad fold than a bad call, especially in tournaments.
The "villain" as you have it, showed strength in equal measure
here?
Having called the re-raise at the flop, there is a committment
to the hand, and the "villains" bet at the turn is him showing
committment to his hand, and trying to get you off yours. So I just think having gone so far, I'd
have to go over the cliff - but hey, I bet on horses for a living, so
my propensity to gamble probably precludes me from being a very
good poker player!! :-)
The worst hand I put him on is AQ/AJ of spades, which means he could have just picked up 9 extra outs when 2s appears, hence is über strong lead out on the turn.
He may have a set, more likely to be 10s/AAs, as wouldn't expect a re-raise pre-flop with 77s. But if he had the set, surely he'd milk (or at least try) you with a smaller bet?
I'd find a better spot.
or chips invested - I am also talking about the mechanics of the
decision to play the hand, if you get my drift?!
I constantly berate myself for calling a raise, then folding a re-raise because
to my mind if I was so quickly forced to put down, then I question whether I had any right calling
in the first place - does that make any sense?
You lads are clearly much more knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to
poker (but in no other area do I concede!!) than I am, but I have a perverse desire
to put forward a contrary opinion to stir debate - don't get me started on horses or football :-)
Its a standard fold imo.
A. the guy min raises the flop.
B. He continues on the turn. (the 2 is irrelevent)
I rekon villian has 77, TT or AT persoanlly. However because he only min raises the flop it allows us to reassess the turn.
Now once he bets this about im pretty sure we're beat, and i already was. So yea standard fold from me, infact i probably play the hand the excact same way as our OP.
To call flop fold turn, you need to know he doesnt fire again if hes bluffing or if he value raises worse he doesnt vbet again on a blank turn