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DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites

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  • elsadogelsadog Member Posts: 5,677
    edited April 2011
    Was just a matter of time.
  • HartshorNHartshorN Member Posts: 616
    edited April 2011
    Just heard about this :S..

    Time for sky poker to go global maybe? lol
  • CJ111CJ111 Member Posts: 193
    edited April 2011
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited April 2011


     suppose its best to cash out then ?
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited April 2011
    Umm, they siezed bank accounts of the company's?
    And domains?
    That sounds serious for the players?
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited April 2011

    What does all this mean? I don't understand any of what I just read. 

    What r the practical implications to players?
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited April 2011



      just withdrew  my cash ,
    but  u.s players are blocked at present according to other forums .


    best advice seems from other forums is,
      take your money and run .
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited April 2011
    cheers irishrover

    hope you dont mind, i just copy/pasted that to my other forum I use

    hope we arent creating a scare for no reason!
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited April 2011
    Hardly got any money on those sites so i'll just leave it for now.
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,818
    edited April 2011
    my biggest roll is currently on stars

    Is it best to withdraw or will it only be US players effected. Seems kind of hursh to punnish the rest of the world for something thats illeagal only in America.

    **** Americans.
  • MrWh1teMrWh1te Member Posts: 963
    edited April 2011

    I think there will be mass withdrawals from all those sites now.  No idea what it all means though.  Luckily I have no rolls on those sites

  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited April 2011
    This sounds serious!

    Glad I only have a few pounds in stars and tilt!


  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited April 2011

    Reuters News Content .


    NEW YORK, April 15 (Reuters) - The owners of three of the largest Internet poker companies operating in the United States were accused on Friday of tricking regulators and banks into processing billions of dollars of illegal Internet gambling proceeds. Eleven people including the owners of Full Tilt Poker, Absolute Poker and PokerStars were charged with violating U.S. anti-Internet gambling laws, according to charges filed by federal prosecutors in Manhattan. The charges are part of a crackdown on Internet gambling in the United States, where it has been illegal since 2006. In March, Wynn Resorts Ltd said that it had entered into a partnership with PokerStars, and that they would work for passage of U.S. legislation that would define illegal Internet gambling. (Reporting by Basil Katz)


  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited April 2011
    i hope my 10k is still safe!!
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited April 2011
    In Response to Re: DOJ indicts U.S. poker sites:
    i hope my 10k is still safe!!
    Posted by pod1
    I don't think it affects play money lol !
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited April 2011
    this explains things in a simpler form
    http://blogs.forbes.com/nathanvardi/2011/04/15/founders-of-worlds-biggest-online-poker-companies-indicted/
    I have read on another forum that it will affect all players worldwide. Some players in the U.K. are unable to log in on Full Tilt. I still can but only have $4 there
  • IRISHROVERIRISHROVER Member Posts: 7,606
    edited April 2011



    THE WALL STREET JOURNAL
     

    By CHAD BRAY

    NEW YORK—Eleven people, including the founders of three of the largest online poker companies doing business in the U.S, have been charged in the latest crackdown on Internet gambling by U.S. authorities.

    Federal prosecutors in Manhattan have alleged the poker companies, which are located outside the U.S., tried to sidestep U.S. laws prohibiting banks and credit-card issuers from processing gambling payments by disguising billions of dollars from U.S. gamblers as payments to nonexistent online merchants for golf balls, jewelry, flowers and other merchandise.

    After U.S banks and financial institutions began detecting and shut down bank accounts used by the scheme in late 2009, prosecutors allege, a new strategy was developed in which two online poker websites allegedly persuaded a few small, local banks facing financial difficulties to process their payments in return for multimillion-dollar investments in those banks.

    "Foreign firms that choose to operate in the United States are not free to flout the laws they don't like simply because they can't bear to be parted from their profits," said Preet Bharara, the U.S. attorney in Manhattan.

    Those charged Friday include the founders of online poker websites PokerStars, Full Tilt Poker, and Absolute Poker. The charges include bank fraud, money laundering and online-gambling offenses.

    Representatives of PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker didn't immediately respond to requests for comment Friday. Contact information for Absolute Poker couldn't immediately be located.

    Federal authorities also have filed restraining orders against 76 bank accounts in 14 countries allegedly associated with the poker companies and others as a part of a separate civil forfeiture action. They are seeking at least $3 billion in civil money-laundering penalties and forfeiture.

    Prosecutors also seized five Internet domain names used by the poker companies.

    Friday's indictment and seizures mark the latest effort by U.S. authorities to crack down on online gambling. In recent years, some executives of overseas online-gambling firms have been arrested when the travel to the U.S.

    In October 2006, the U.S. made it a crime for companies to knowingly accept electronic payments in connect with Internet gambling.

    In the latest indictment, U.S. prosecutors have alleged that the poker companies recruited third parties to open banks accounts and process "e-check" transactions using phony company names. Four men who allegedly acted as middlemen in collecting payments also have been charged.

    About a third of the funds deposited by gamblers went to the poker companies as revenue, known as the "rake," prosecutors said. A rake refers to a percentage of a poker pot that it is collected by a casino or online poker site after a player wins the hand.

  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited April 2011
    as long as its safe mate i dont mind lol

  • BananaDogBananaDog Member Posts: 1,390
    edited April 2011
    All the US players are sat out in the tourneys they had registered for on FT...UK are still playing fine but they may still have probs getting their money out I suppose until it has all been looked into? All US players cannot play but also can't withdraw their cash!!!
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,944
    edited April 2011

     Have just tried to access FT and PS but unable to get on website, just comes up with message saying site has been taken over by authorities. Withdrew my BR from Stars 3 days ago and just hoping money appears in my bank this week. Get out now while you can if I were you.
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