good example of how not to play KQ suited.

BURNShurtz

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
garymccoll	Small blind		25.00	25.00	7750.00
BURNShurtz	Big blind		50.00	75.00	3500.00
	Your hole cards	Q K
blazinAA	Fold
ms-tree	Call		50.00	125.00	4084.00
hume03	Fold
rabbi15	Fold
garymccoll	Call		25.00	150.00	7725.00
BURNShurtz	Raise		150.00	300.00	3350.00
ms-tree	Fold
garymccoll	Call		150.00	450.00	7575.00
Flop
		Q 4 Q
garymccoll	Check
BURNShurtz	Bet		225.00	675.00	3125.00
garymccoll	Call		225.00	900.00	7350.00
Turn
		5
garymccoll	Check
BURNShurtz	Check
River
		3
garymccoll	Check
BURNShurtz	Bet		675.00	1575.00	2450.00
garymccoll	Raise		1350.00	2925.00	6000.00
BURNShurtz	Raise		1350.00	4275.00	1100.00
garymccoll	All-in		6000.00	10275.00	0.00
BURNShurtz	All-in		1100.00	11375.00	0.00
garymccoll	Unmatched bet		4225.00	7150.00	4225.00
garymccoll	Show	2 A
BURNShurtz	Show	Q K
garymccoll	Win	Straight to the 5	7150.00

SILEEK

Self flagellation is never an edifying spectacle - so I'll join in :-)
Your flat call at the flop having made QQQ was poxy in the extreme,
and for your check at the turn you should be marched to a place of
execution!!

Dudeskin8

Bad beat yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn.

Can someone move this to the badbeats and variance section.

DOHHHHHHH

It isn't a bad beat......

You do have to bet the turn though, why didn't you?

grantorino

Im finding it hard to work out potsizes, stacksizes etc so my cooments on sizing could be off but anyway

I raise a little bigger pre with 2 limpers ahead of me

bet turn for value from worse Qs flush draws, pocket pairs, random c**p. You are missing huge value here

Shove river when you are raised

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

It isn't a bad beat...... You do have to bet the turn though, why didn't you?
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

i was trying to be to clever i think. he was pretty aggresive when he seen weakness so thought he wouldnt put me on a Q if i checked the turn.

DOHHHHHHH

But even if he does put you on a queen, even if you turn it over and show him a queen, there are still lots of hands he will call you with on the turn, that he wont call you with on the river.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

Bad beat yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwn. Can someone move this to the badbeats and variance section.
Posted by Dudeskin8

i must be blind as cant see BAD BEAT writen anywhere until your post.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

But even if he does put you on a queen, even if you turn it over and show him a queen, there are still lots of hands he will call you with on the turn, that he wont call you with on the river.
Posted by DOHHHHHHH[/QU 

i used to bet my hands, no sure what im doing lately. not cocentrating enough prob.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

Self flagellation is never an edifying spectacle - so I'll join in :-) Your flat call at the flop having made QQQ was poxy in the extreme, and for your check at the turn you should be marched to a place of execution!!
Posted by SILEEK

doi i get a blind fold?

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited. : i must be blind as cant see BAD BEAT writen anywhere until your post.
Posted by BURNShurtz

He's hit runner-runner for the straight, of course getting a free card on the turn, but I'd feel pretty bad beatish after getting this although I would never check the turn Obz.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited. : He's hit runner-runner for the straight, of course getting a free card on the turn, but I'd feel pretty bad beatish after getting this although I would never check the turn Obz.
Posted by Dudeskin8

as i posted to dohhhhhhh, i was trying to be clever. my own fault and thats why i posted it. i honestly didnt post it as a bad beat.

waynec

Being clever on the turn was a mistake, cant see u putting him on a str8 draw but did u not think possible flush draw with his flop call? IMO u should have put an end to the pot on the turn with a good size bet.

grantorino

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

Being clever on the turn was a mistake, cant see u putting him on a str8 draw but did u not think possible flush draw with his flop call? IMO u should have put an end to the pot on the turn with a good size bet.
Posted by waynec

We dont want worse hands to fold if we bet turn.

Dudeskin8

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited. : We dont want worse hands to fold if we bet turn.
Posted by grantorino

Yh that's the other end of the scary bad scale, somewhere close to the option of folding the turn in position.

BURNShurtz

In Response to Re: good example of how not to play KQ suited.:

Being clever on the turn was a mistake, cant see u putting him on a str8 draw but did u not think possible flush draw with his flop call? IMO u should have put an end to the pot on the turn with a good size bet.
Posted by waynec

hi waynec, i did know the flush draw was there but in my mind i thought that if the river comes a blank then i can get all his stack if he is playin a pp or maybe he might bluff with a busted flush draw. this hand has taught me not to be to smart with my play. ABC from now on.