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The phrase, "You got your chips in ahead"
bennydip2
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Over the years i often hear someone say, 'Well at least you got your chips in with the best hand" !! "As long as you keep doing that, in the end you'll be a winner "..Hello ??? What's that all about ?..
Off course you wont be a winner long term pushing All-in. OK i grant you if after the flop you have the 'Nuts' (made hand) your going to be unlucky to get out-drawn, this is where variance comes into the statistics of the game .
However so often players get all their chips/cash in pre-flop based on the fact they have a premium starting hand, and scream when they get a caller who out drew them ..!!
Abuse and name calling follows in the chat box but the thing is this, "If you didn't want a caller, don't put all your chips into play pre-flop
The thing about the modern 'hold-em game' is it's tactics are being based on aggression pre- flop and post flop, However I'm sure if some players realised that if they played small pot poker in some situations and occasionally looking to get the "TURN" card, then this is when you can access the way the hand has been played and then make the move 'all-in, based on the betting pattern and the fact that there is only the river card to come and save them if they want to call.
A good friend once told me, "Poker is a game about confusion, it's not about being predictable" So don't knock it till you try it, sometimes 67 can be a good raising hand, as can KK be a good passing hand.
Ultimately we are all learning this game no matter if we have been playing 6 months or 30 years and anything that gives you an edge on what your opponents think you are doing is "Confusing" and that's poker my friends ..
Glk and may the poker fairy sit on your shoulder tonight ..Bennydip2
Off course you wont be a winner long term pushing All-in. OK i grant you if after the flop you have the 'Nuts' (made hand) your going to be unlucky to get out-drawn, this is where variance comes into the statistics of the game .
However so often players get all their chips/cash in pre-flop based on the fact they have a premium starting hand, and scream when they get a caller who out drew them ..!!
Abuse and name calling follows in the chat box but the thing is this, "If you didn't want a caller, don't put all your chips into play pre-flop
The thing about the modern 'hold-em game' is it's tactics are being based on aggression pre- flop and post flop, However I'm sure if some players realised that if they played small pot poker in some situations and occasionally looking to get the "TURN" card, then this is when you can access the way the hand has been played and then make the move 'all-in, based on the betting pattern and the fact that there is only the river card to come and save them if they want to call.
A good friend once told me, "Poker is a game about confusion, it's not about being predictable" So don't knock it till you try it, sometimes 67 can be a good raising hand, as can KK be a good passing hand.
Ultimately we are all learning this game no matter if we have been playing 6 months or 30 years and anything that gives you an edge on what your opponents think you are doing is "Confusing" and that's poker my friends ..
Glk and may the poker fairy sit on your shoulder tonight ..Bennydip2
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The phrase is mainly used when someone gets hit by a bad beat - you flop trips, end up all in and someone outdraws you on a runner runner full house on a non paired board like happened me yesterday for example. In this situation there is nothing more you could have done - you went in well ahead and the poker Gods decided it wasnt your night.
If you made the same play 100 times you would win x% more than you would lose making you a winning player over time so I dont see any issue with the saying or the idealogy behind it when used appropriately.
What if it was You first to act after the flop and you made a bet of 2and1/2 big blinds ?
Would he have called that bet ? Possibly but most likely by what you have said, so you can then move Allin with trips AFTER the TURN still way in front but your opponent has only the river to hit !!!!!! Does he then call ?? The thing is the game is all about opinions and players having to make decisions, would he have been so brave with only the river to come ?
You were very unlucky to get hit by runner runner, but you did have other ways of playing the hand, it's something i have done myself, getting caught like you did but if i have time on the clock to think the situation through, then i prefer to trap witha small bet to see the TURN and then make the play from there..... Granted with a 7 min blind structure in these tournaments you don't get chance to make all decision's but it is another option to play a big hand !!
glk beenydip2
A good friend once told me, "Poker is a game about confusion, it's not about being predictable" So don't knock it till you try it, sometimes 67 can be a good raising hand, as can KK be a good passing hand.
opening and 3betting light with hands like 67 is something that has only become widely popular in the past 5 years or so.
i know when I first started learning the pokerz that it was considered to be an advanced tactic to open C/O and BTN light, now tho it is super-standard and on certain sites it is even standard to defend 3bet light from the blinds to positional raises.