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A few hands in NL4 I would like opinions on. Winning and losing

tapewormtapeworm Member Posts: 432
edited May 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Hi All,

So im back after a few months break as I was getting a little down and felt like the poker gods were against me all the time......basically permatilt. Which was pretty detrimental to my BR to say the least.

Anyway, im back and refreshed and determined to get the **** out of NL4 for good. LOL. Im going to post a few hands each session here, both winning and losing to get your expert opinions on.

Reason being I tend to win fairly slowly and loose real fast. Which would suggest, now that Ive thought about it a bit, that a) im overvaluing certain hands and/or playing them wrong and b) not getting the maximum out of my winning ones. So thats my first mission to Iron out. So here are a few from my last 2 sessions that stand out:

won this one but want to know if I was right to call pre in the BB and if my bet sizing on the turn was as bad as I think it is. What should I have bet here to keep him in, but still get maximum value?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £2.78
tapeworm Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.90
  Your hole cards
  • 8
  • 7
     
DadandLad Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.65
Dugman Raise  £0.12 £0.22 £1.44
xCall  £0.10 £0.32 £2.68
tapeworm Call  £0.08 £0.40 £3.82
DadandLad Call  £0.08 £0.48 £1.57
Flop
   
  • 8
  • 2
  • 7
     
xCheck     
tapeworm Bet  £0.36 £0.84 £3.46
DadandLad Fold     
Dugman Fold     
xCall  £0.36 £1.20 £2.32
Turn
   
  • 7
     
xCheck     
tapeworm Bet  £0.40 £1.60 £3.06
xCall  £0.40 £2.00 £1.92
River
   
  • 8
     
xAll-in  £1.92 £3.92 £0.00
tapeworm Call  £1.92 £5.84 £1.14
xShow
  • J
  • 9
   
tapeworm Show
  • 8
  • 7
   
tapeworm Win Full House, 8s and 7s £5.40  £6.54

Another winning one but was interesting/ lucky. I had been called pre by a variety of oppos very wide and there was a lot of reraising. Felt I had to call the reraise for the amount and Jamming the flop was my only option with the stacks. Correct move?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
toolofski Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £10.81
EVERTONACE Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £2.61
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
     
scs_sam Call  £0.04 £0.10 £4.69
joemissipi Raise  £0.16 £0.26 £4.41
tapeworm Raise  £0.40 £0.66 £3.10
k1ngstu Fold     
toolofski Fold     
EVERTONACE Call  £0.36 £1.02 £2.25
scs_sam Raise  £0.60 £1.62 £4.09
joemissipi Call  £0.48 £2.10 £3.93
tapeworm Call  £0.24 £2.34 £2.86
EVERTONACE Call  £0.24 £2.58 £2.01
Flop
   
  • A
  • 3
  • 2
     
EVERTONACE Check     
scs_sam Check     
joemissipi Check     
tapeworm All-in  £2.86 £5.44 £0.00
EVERTONACE Fold     
scs_sam Fold     
joemissipi Fold     
tapeworm Muck     
tapeworm Win  £2.38  £2.38
tapeworm Return  £2.86 £0.20 £5.24
Loss. Should I have seen this? Was I stupid to bet that strong in an unopened pot?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
J Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £1.13
tapeworm Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £3.96
  Your hole cards
  • 5
  • 6
     
duxrs Fold     
mum26 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £0.86
kbasc Call  £0.04 £0.14 £0.75
J Call  £0.02 £0.16 £1.11
tapeworm Check     
Flop
   
  • 6
  • 5
  • 8
     
J Bet  £0.04 £0.20 £1.07
tapeworm Raise  £0.22 £0.42 £3.74
mum26 Fold     
kbasc Call  £0.22 £0.64 £0.53
J Call  £0.18 £0.82 £0.89
Turn
   
  • 2
     
J Check     
tapeworm Bet  £0.82 £1.64 £2.92
kbasc Fold     
J All-in  £0.89 £2.53 £0.00
tapeworm Call  £0.07 £2.60 £2.85
J Show
  • 7
  • 4
   
tapeworm Show
  • 5
  • 6
   
River
   
  • Q
     
J Win Straight to the 8 £2.40  £2.40

And is there anything I could have done to avoid this, or just one of those things? Should I have shoved the Turn? he was playing everyhand and calling everyones raise!
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.01
frankban09 Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £1.84
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • Q
     
Countess13 Fold     
chapman02 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £1.68
tapeworm Raise  £0.20 £0.30 £4.17
macer Fold     
Call  £0.18 £0.48 £2.83
frankban09 Fold     
chapman02 Call  £0.16 £0.64 £1.52
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 2
  • A
     
Check     
chapman02 Check     
tapeworm Bet  £0.48 £1.12 £3.69
Call  £0.48 £1.60 £2.35
chapman02 Fold     
Turn
   
  • 8
     
Check     
tapeworm Bet  £1.20 £2.80 £2.49
Call  £1.20 £4.00 £1.15
River
   
  • 9
     
All-in  £1.15 £5.15 £0.00
tapeworm Call  £1.15 £6.30 £1.34
Show
  • J
  • 10
   
tapeworm Show
  • K
  • Q
   
Win Straight to the Queen £5.82  £5.82

Comments

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    1. fine
    2. I'd need a reason to 3bet pre, I suppose you can flat the 4bet getting those odds. I much prefer checking flop
    3 looks fine, just stick him in on turn
    4 shove turn if hes that bad
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