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Strange spot in satellite...

DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
edited May 2011 in The Poker Clinic
30 left, 17 seats. Starting stacks are 2500, 11k at 300/600 should be plenty to coast to a seat barring a catastrophe, so settled in to just fold my way through. Then this happened, and I'm honestly curious what people would do here. Villain hadn't been super aggro then suddenly did this out of nowhere- obviously I'm ahead so that's no issue, but he's one of only 2/3 people in the satellite that have me covered- whatever he has (unless I'm super lucky and he has AK, or any ace/king combo for that matter) is probably 15/20% against me. Is there actually any need to call this here?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
talllady01 Small blind   300.00 300.00 2120.00
DeucesLive Big blind   600.00 900.00 11038.74
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
WHITEADDER All-in   15081.26 15981.26 0.00
Bridge790 Fold        
HIBBIE22 Fold        
talllady01 Fold        
DeucesLive ????  

Comments

  • iBLUFFiBLUFF Member Posts: 1,244
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Strange spot in satellite...:
    30 left, 17 seats. Starting stacks are 2500, 11k at 300/600 should be plenty to coast to a seat barring a catastrophe, so settled in to just fold my way through. Then this happened, and I'm honestly curious what people would do here. Villain hadn't been super aggro then suddenly did this out of nowhere- obviously I'm ahead so that's no issue, but he's one of only 2/3 people in the satellite that have me covered- whatever he has (unless I'm super lucky and he has AK, or any ace/king combo for that matter) is probably 15/20% against me. Is there actually any need to call this here? Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance talllady01 Small blind   300.00 300.00 2120.00 DeucesLive Big blind   600.00 900.00 11038.74   Your hole cards A A       WHITEADDER All-in   15081.26 15981.26 0.00 Bridge790 Fold         HIBBIE22 Fold         talllady01 Fold         DeucesLive ????  
    Posted by DeucesLive
    meh.. i call here but i dont like it even though we have aces , as you say you can coast to the seat and theres always a chance he binks on us..
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    mmm, no expert on sattellites but is 18BB really enough to coast to money with 13 players still to bust without risking your chips?. If your really sure I suppose you could fold, if there's any doubt I call. I never play sats so could be way off
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited May 2011
    Well, the blind structure is lightning fast (I suppose saying I was sat 3rd of 30 would be relevant- should have mentioned that).

    People tend to blind out/be forced to shove very quickly, so 18bbs should probably have been enough, yes.I would have expected (assuming my blind got raised every orbit- unlikely) to finish with some 6-7k or so still. Of course, it doesn't mean it's an absolute guarantee.

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    Never play satelites but I'd personally feel so sick if I folded here and still didn't get a seat, plus folding Aces preflop is like against the law right ?
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited May 2011
    there is only one guarantee in life and you folding your way to a seat here is not it, i would call turn off the computer and turn it back on in the morning to see if im good
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited May 2011
    Obviously it's not a guarantee. So, a better question is- let's assume I'm 85% against his range- probably not a million miles off the mark?
    Is my chance of cashing (if I fold) better than 85%? Because obviously if I call and win, that IS as good a guarantee as you can get in poker- I can sit away from the computer and get a seat 99.999% of the time. But if I fold this, I'm not sure my chance of getting a seat is less than 85%, more like 90%- it'd take a pretty major slice of bad luck to not get through here.

    Fwiw, since the result is kind of immaterial to the point at hand anyway, I called. Quads are always nice, of course. I didn't slowroll him TOO badly either, though I did take 5-10 seconds to make up my mind.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    talllady01 Small blind   300.00 300.00 2120.00
    DeucesLive Big blind   600.00 900.00 11038.74
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • A
         
    WHITEADDER All-in   15081.26 15981.26 0.00
    Bridge790 Fold        
    HIBBIE22 Fold        
    talllady01 Fold        
    DeucesLive All-in   11038.74 27020.00 0.00
    WHITEADDER Unmatched bet   3442.52 23577.48 3442.52
    DeucesLive Show
    • A
    • A
         
    WHITEADDER Show
    • J
    • J
         
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 10
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    River
       
    • 5
         
    DeucesLive Win Four Aces 23577.48   23577.48
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited May 2011
    not even a sweat, its not a slowroll as such...worth thinking about it for 2 secs
  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited May 2011
    With 18bb's and 13 left to go, this is an insta call. Wouldn't even have had time to blink before I've got my chips over the line.
  • DeucesLiveDeucesLive Member Posts: 839
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: Strange spot in satellite...:
    With 18bb's and 13 left to go, this is an insta call. Wouldn't even have had time to blink before I've got my chips over the line.
    Posted by Mohican
    why? Just because my blinds are relatively low, in relation to the field it's huge. Probably ~10 players are sat around the 1-3bb mark, and in serious danger, 18bbs in a fast satellite structure at this stage is enormous. 

    If someone I have covered makes this play, obviously I snap it off- still more risk than I'd like, but at least then if I do get a bad beat I've got a chance to claw back up. I couldn't block the feeling that even with AA, this was just a risk that wasn't necessary- I'd already done the hard work getting my stack to where it was, with the bubble being played out over 3 tables I should be able to timewaste my way to the finish line.
  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited May 2011
    i agree with nick, its the law!!!!
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