It should have been in on flop. I had a bad feeling on it and guess I wanted to leave myself a bolthole on later street, which in reality was unlikey to happen. Or improve to 4's full at turn.
If I do flat flop it can only be with the intention to bluff catch through later streets, not realistically fold to any card not pairing the board.
no because once you go in check call mode you lose your equity, we want marginal hands and draws to fold. c/c just gives them a cheap way to catch up at least if you shove you get them to make the mistake by getting in bad, other times they will fold and others your be behind but your have outs. rarely are we drawing to the 1 out eg set over set which is just ul
no because once you go in check call mode you lose your equity, we want marginal hands and draws to fold. c/c just gives them a cheap way to catch up at least if you shove you get them to make the mistake by getting in bad, other times they will fold and others your be behind but your have outs. rarely are we drawing to the 1 out eg set over set which is just ul Posted by YOUNG_GUN
I agree with the don't let them catch up especially in multi way pots. I think either line is ok depending on the action There's another thread on here regarding flopping a set where DOh and LOL_RAISE state they would check and let others catch up so they would hang themselfs It's an intresting debate.
since when is 245 10 a wet board? and flop a rainbow how dry do u want it lol Posted by YOUNG_GUN
you are forgetting Moobs this is live 245 is a wet board in 1/2 cash live lol everyone plays every hand no matter what it is lol but i'd still go broke in this hand the only way im getting off this hand is if the turn was an A,3 or 6 where i know especially live that im beaten but the turn 10 just means im setting the other guy in and binking a house on the river getting up and rubbing all his money on my t i tties
Its kind of like I said earlier I think this hand does highlight the difference between online/live cash.
Online I likely put it in on the flop without even thinking too deeply, but this may be part and parcel of my online failings as a rule.
Live I have many more tools at my disposal. Its not a simple EV+ hand. I can really take my time, try and get villain to give something away by waiting him out. EV+ your doing your stack always online, absorbed into larger game. Live it may take you the rest of the night to regain the loss, even then only if your lucky.
But I agree money was always going in unless I am 100% certain, but against this opponent, never happening. TBH tricky fold against any opponent, nigh on impossible. Even with the gut feeling it changes nothing. Would have been very nice to fill up though.
Hugely over aggressive, maintains pressure through the streets with questionable holdings. Prepared to fire 3 bullets without really caring about result.
I cant see how you are ever folding here, so best line depends on how likely he is to keep betting combo draws etc, how likely he is to go nuts on flop with worse hands. My default is 3bet flop and snap a shove
It's a toss up between reading a Damon Runyon novel, or reading one of your tales of an east yorkshire gambling den - both very entertaining :-)
My question relates to the 3/4s Scandinavian thing - is this a poker term I am unfamiliar with? Or is it a reference to the fact that your opponent hails from a Nordic ethnic group??
edit - didn't notice there was a page 2 on this thread where the "3/4 Scandinavian" issue is addressed!! :-)
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It should have been in on flop. I had a bad feeling on it and guess I wanted to leave myself a bolthole on later street, which in reality was unlikey to happen. Or improve to 4's full at turn.
If I do flat flop it can only be with the intention to bluff catch through later streets, not realistically fold to any card not pairing the board.
I think either line is ok depending on the action
There's another thread on here regarding flopping a set where DOh and LOL_RAISE state they would check and let others catch up so they would hang themselfs
It's an intresting debate.
Online I likely put it in on the flop without even thinking too deeply, but this may be part and parcel of my online failings as a rule.
Live I have many more tools at my disposal. Its not a simple EV+ hand. I can really take my time, try and get villain to give something away by waiting him out. EV+ your doing your stack always online, absorbed into larger game. Live it may take you the rest of the night to regain the loss, even then only if your lucky.
But I agree money was always going in unless I am 100% certain, but against this opponent, never happening. TBH tricky fold against any opponent, nigh on impossible. Even with the gut feeling it changes nothing. Would have been very nice to fill up though.
I cant see how you are ever folding here, so best line depends on how likely he is to keep betting combo draws etc, how likely he is to go nuts on flop with worse hands. My default is 3bet flop and snap a shove