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I feel dirty and ashamed
grantorino
Member Posts: 4,710
No reads on villain, he hasnt done anything out of line, only at table 5 mins though
Flame away here, this has to be really bad, and feel free to offer alternative lines
I'll post my own "reasoning" after a few replies
Flame away here, this has to be really bad, and feel free to offer alternative lines
I'll post my own "reasoning" after a few replies
| tatohead | Small blind | £0.15 | £0.15 | £75.05 | |
| grantorino | Big blind | £0.30 | £0.45 | £78.44 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| AHiOYeah | Fold | ||||
| DEFOE007 | Fold | ||||
| v | Raise | £0.90 | £1.35 | £57.42 | |
| eric1406 | Call | £0.90 | £2.25 | £18.02 | |
| tatohead | Fold | ||||
| grantorino | Raise | £3.60 | £5.85 | £74.84 | |
| v | Raise | £10.80 | £16.65 | £46.62 | |
| eric1406 | Fold | ||||
| grantorino | Fold |
Comments
Although i dont critise the fold.
JJ - probably just flats pre, AK - maybe if he's super aggro and doesn't mind racing for 2 BI's.
Overall I think the fold is good imo.
Looks like a bigger pocket pair to me. Could have AK at a push if he is loose enough. Good fold imo. If he had more behind him then it might be worth the flat on the flop and see if you hit a set but he doesnt have the money to make it a positive move.
Im definitely not comfortable stacking off pre this deep, am I better of flatting the open, or flatting the 4bet and playing poker. fwiw I shove 100BB deep
I havent played much on this site, but 4betting seems very uncommon, do people ever 4bet bluff at 20/30NL? DO they even 3bet bluff? Do they flat 3bets enough and 4 bet rarely enough to make 3b/f optimal this deep?
The way this has played out, I like a fold. Unless the board comes down Q high, you're not liking anything- and even if comes down say KQ or AQ, you could still easily be behind the way this has played. Flatting is bad, shoving is probably worse. He doesn't have enough back for you to have the implied odds for setmining.
Don't mind how you played this at all. The thing I hate about queens is, and the thing everyone gets hung up on, is it's the '3rd best hand in holdem'. Yes, it is- but when your opponents range has been narrowed down to 4 hands, of which one is so unlikely because you're holding 2 of them, your equity in the hand plummets. You're 50% against the least likely of the holdings, and 20% against the two most likely. They look pretty, but just don't stack up well once you're in a 4bet pot at 30NL.
I think unless you raise with the stone cold nuts or going allin, you're always raising for information aren't you? You can be raising for both value and information.
If 3bet fold is the right line, its because they flat with a wide range of worse hands and only 4bet KK+.
imo when you raise its for value or as a bluff, betting usually gains you some info but it would be a rare situation that betting to gain info would be good
He probably more likely to flat your 3 bet with AK rarther than 4 betting -- depends on player but most would than open themselfs up to a 5 bet/5 bet shove
fold is ok
raising is better than calling and a 10 high flop comes