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2 hands v same oppo....

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited May 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Ring game broke, so ended up HU v this guy.

Theres 2 hands he took a similar line on, I'm gonna have to post the result of hand 1, to get proper opinions on hand 2.

This is hand 1, what do you do on the turn here? Readless at the time? The result will prob spoil the analysis, but try and give an honest opinion plz.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
MrMohanjie Small blind  £0.15 £0.15 £30.13
DOHHHHHHH Big blind  £0.30 £0.45 £53.24
  Your hole cards
  • 6
  • Q
     
ctbn Call  £0.30 £0.75 £37.02
aliaz Fold     
MrMohanjie Fold     
DOHHHHHHH Check     
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 6
  • 10
     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £0.60 £1.35 £52.64
ctbn Raise  £1.20 £2.55 £35.82
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £3.75 £6.30 £48.89
ctbn Raise  £9.00 £15.30 £26.82
DOHHHHHHH Call  £5.85 £21.15 £43.04
Turn
   
  • 5
     
DOHHHHHHH Check     
ctbn All-in  £26.82 £47.97 £0.00
DOHHHHHHH Call  £26.82 £74.79 £16.22
DOHHHHHHH Show
  • 6
  • Q
   
ctbn Show
  • K
  • K
   
River
   
  • 2
     
DOHHHHHHH Win Two Pairs, Queens and 6s £72.99  £89.21
Heres hand 2........

My read is obv the above hand.

Turn and river, thoughts?
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
DOHHHHHHH Small blind  £0.15 £0.15 £85.67
ctbn Big blind  £0.30 £0.45 £34.32
  Your hole cards
  • 7
  • 6
     
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £0.60 £1.05 £85.07
ctbn Raise  £1.80 £2.85 £32.52
DOHHHHHHH Call  £1.35 £4.20 £83.72
Flop
   
  • Q
  • 6
  • 4
     
ctbn Bet  £2.10 £6.30 £30.42
DOHHHHHHH Call  £2.10 £8.40 £81.62
Turn
   
  • 7
     
ctbn Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £5.10 £13.50 £76.52
ctbn Raise  £10.20 £23.70 £20.22
DOHHHHHHH Call  £5.10 £28.80 £71.42
River
   
  • 10
     
ctbn Bet  £14.40 £43.20 £5.82
DOHHHHHHH

Comments

  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited May 2011
    Lol you luck box :p

    I think the guy is crazy to put the 4 bet in on the flop Hand 1.  Then open shoving pot is just awful.

    Hand 2 then.  Like you say guy is uber aggro.  He could easily be putting in the river bet with a lot of 1pr hands following what you just saw + the added steam.  Easily be a very solid 1pr Q, guy has no check call mode or pot control, I likely put him in rest of way based on previous hand.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    1.
    Why flat flop 4bet? You should either flat his 1st raise or 3bet with intention of getting it in.

    As played snap turn

    2.
    Fold pre, you have no reads on what he 3bets and you dont flop well often enough

    Flop call is marginal readless, whats your plan?

    Turn, get it in when he c/r

    As played shove river. You have 2p ina 3bet pot hu v spewbox
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011

    Hand 1 I did plan to get it in on the flop, but I thought he might fold a Qx hand if I shoved, and changed my mind. Maybe something about his sizing alarmed me? I can't really remember, was bladdered again.

    Does it make much difference? It's going in anyway.....

    ---------------------

    Hand 2, I flopped a pair, and he c bets alot of hands that I've gone ahead of. Was just calling to see what he did on't turn....Don't think I can fold flop really?

    Could fold pre, but it's an ok hand in position...was just trying to make a hand and "let him go" again really.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    Idk if you can fold flop, but the amoount of time you miss flop or hit one like this is a huge % of time, so a plan to call pre and call and see on this flop readless doesnt seem very profitable to me.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited May 2011
    hand 1 lol send him a thank you PM

    hand 2 prob get it in.  only a fiver more and there aren't many hands that hes 3betting pre with that have u beat.  like ur flat call turn but imo you coulda got it in there v Qx tbf
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