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3 Cash hands.

DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic

Player is bad. No specific reads, but just generally bad. lol
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
chenjordan Small blind  £0.20 £0.20 £42.56
xxx Big blind  £0.40 £0.60 £70.00
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • 10
     
nozz3r Fold     
MrMohanjie Fold     
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £1.60 £2.20 £108.63
Mooshka Fold     
chenjordan Fold     
xxxCall  £1.20 £3.40 £68.80
Flop
   
  • A
  • A
  • K
     
xxx Bet  £7.20 £10.60 £61.60
DOHHHHHHH
Hand 2.

Standaed bet fold otr? Or can I call it off?

wtf? (readless)
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
robbiem1 Small blind  £0.15 £0.15 £35.12
DOHHHHHHH Big blind  £0.30 £0.45 £62.75
  Your hole cards
  • 9
  • A
     
wombles Fold     
connolly Call  £0.30 £0.75 £5.84
Trip_Trap Call  £0.30 £1.05 £12.03
MrMohanjie Fold     
robbiem1 Call  £0.15 £1.20 £34.97
DOHHHHHHH Check     
Flop
   
  • 3
  • 2
  • 9
     
robbiem1 Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £0.90 £2.10 £61.85
connolly Fold     
Trip_Trap Fold     
robbiem1 Call  £0.90 £3.00 £34.07
Turn
   
  • 2
     
robbiem1 Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £2.25 £5.25 £59.60
robbiem1 Call  £2.25 £7.50 £31.82
River
   
  • 5
     
robbiem1 Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £4.50 £12.00 £55.10
robbiem1 All-in  £31.82 £43.82 £0.00
DOHHHHHHH
Hand 3.

Player again is really bad. Calls pre with all sorts, any 2 suited. Will call down if he makes a pair.

Don't see him make raises like this often though.

Are you getting it in??
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
nozz3r Small blind  £0.20 £0.20 £75.40
MrMohanjie Big blind  £0.40 £0.60 £67.47
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • J
     
DOHHHHHHH Raise  £1.60 £2.20 £101.56
jordibhx Call  £1.60 £3.80 £46.68
berliner Fold     
Kaka885 Fold     
nozz3r Call  £1.40 £5.20 £74.00
MrMohanjie Fold     
Flop
   
  • 10
  • 8
  • J
     
nozz3r Check     
DOHHHHHHH Bet  £3.90 £9.10 £97.66
jordibhx Call  £3.90 £13.00 £42.78
nozz3r Raise  £20.80 £33.80 £53.20
DOHHHHHHH
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    Hand 1: I'd just fold seen as how deep you both are.

    Hand 2: Again I make the fold played so weakly then suddenly speeds up must have TP beat.

    Hand 3: Fold again, already one call from jord and then for nozz to reraise that big could easily have some random two pair hand.

    Probably all too tight but that's how I play lol.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    1. Fold, unless you intend calling all the way down, which i wouldnt
    2. b/f river looks fine
    3. meh, that board is very drawy, but I Imagine he flats draws a lot so prob fold
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  • offshootoffshoot Member Posts: 1,049
    edited May 2011
    fold fold and fold, probably has JT or something in the last hand.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited May 2011
    hand 1) fold, no idea what the guys repping, probz KQ or rag A
    hand 2) fold
    hand 3) also fold, probz bottom 2 pair or J10 or flush&straight draw which probz edges him as fave
    btw, i hate your 4X raises pre lol! 
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011
    Bunch of nits :P

    Ok, maybe hands 2 and 3 are pretty easy/clear folds......and I did fold both......

    But hand 1? really???

    He's not got an ace surely? 
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    Bunch of nits :P Ok, maybe hands 2 and 3 are pretty easy/clear folds......and I did fold both...... But hand 1? really??? He's not got an ace surely? 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    idk, but it will prob cost you a lot to find out. If you call whats the plan (I assume you never raise)
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited May 2011
    I'd say if someone is making those sort of weird 2x pot bets OOP there is a decent chance they'll hand you their stack eventually when you know you have them beat. Here you would have to be guessing and I think it would be too gambly.
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    Bunch of nits :P Ok, maybe hands 2 and 3 are pretty easy/clear folds......and I did fold both...... But hand 1? really??? He's not got an ace surely? 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    If it was me I'm reraising circa £20 & prepared to jam if he does!  If he wants to see a turn it's gonna cost him 1/3 of his money or all of it!

    Mind you I'm playing with your money!

    Prob not much help but my 2p. Feel guilty you always giving ME advice.

    Pad

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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands. : If it was me I'm reraising circa £20 & prepared to jam if he does!  If he wants to see a turn it's gonna cost him 1/3 of his money or all of it! Mind you I'm playing with your money! Prob not much help but my 2p. Feel guilty you always giving ME advice. Pad
    Posted by Glenelg
    when you raise and then jam what worse hands than KT do you think he shows up with?
    why do you want to make him pay to see a turn?
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011

    If I call flop, I'm folding to a turn bet, will prob call river if he checks turn......

    (can't see any turn/rivers that will put me off, my hand isn't vunerable)

    If I'm calling it's in the hope that he'll slow down.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    sounds a bit much to call to me when we have no idea what he overbets here and how likely he is to slowdown
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands. : when you raise and then jam what worse hands than KT do you think he shows up with? why do you want to make him pay to see a turn?
    Posted by grantorino
    This is a test right? To prove I've been paying attention!
    I'm guessing ANY small pair villain is gonna be happy?

    Why do I want to make him pay?  Isn't that what pokers about? ;-)

    pad
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands. : This is a test right? To prove I've been paying attention! I'm guessing ANY small pair villain is gonna be happy? Why do I want to make him pay?  Isn't that what pokers about? ;-) pad
    Posted by Glenelg
    if he has a small pair do you not think call />raise. Do you really think he bets 2 pot and jams over araise often with less than KT?

    Also what turn cards are we afraid of. if he likes bluffing with small pairs why not just let him keep firing huge rather than raising and maybe making him fold
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    If I call flop, I'm folding to a turn bet, will prob call river if he checks turn...... (can't see any turn/rivers that will put me off, my hand isn't vunerable) If I'm calling it's in the hope that he'll slow down.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH

    Could you expand on this JJ as it seems to me a bit ambiguous?

    Also, "Player is bad. No specific reads, but just generally bad. lol"

    What does this mean? General & Bet sizing wise.

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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011
    if he calls flop he thinks it scares guy from bluffing turn, which it could on an AAK board

    his hand is not vulnerable as there are no bad cards turn cards for him, villain has max 4 outs if behind (I think)
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands. :

    if he has a small pair do you not think call />raise.

    No, he may hit small house?  8's over A's? say?


    Do you really think he bets 2 pot and jams over araise often with less than KT?

    JJ said he "Was generally BAD?" I've NO idea what he might bet with!  

    Also what turn cards are we afraid of.
     
    Any card other than A,K or 10 I'm guessing?  (not sure about 10 tho? )

    if he likes bluffing with small pairs why not just let him keep firing huge rather than raising and maybe making him fold

    Cos (knowing RNG) he's def gonna hit his house?


    This could be ALL  ballrocks but it's just my 2p!
    P
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited May 2011

    Im finished on this

    We dont need to protect against 2 outers, especially when raising may well make them fold

    a T doesnt help our hand ducy?

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2011

    I ended up value betting in this hand! lol
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    if he calls flop he thinks it scares guy from bluffing turn, which it could on an AAK board his hand is not vulnerable as there are no bad cards turn cards for him, villain has max 4 outs if behind (I think)
    Posted by grantorino
    Right! REALLY trying to get to grips with this.

    It's wayy above my level tho.

    Would really like to know the outcome? 

    pad
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited May 2011
    In Response to Re: 3 Cash hands.:
    I ended up value betting in this hand! lol
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    lol! How much?
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