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andrew1947andrew1947 Member Posts: 261
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic
you have poket aa,after flop he has 1 for flush two cards to come   2/1 odds,and you know this.He goes all in which means you are all in also.your tournament on the line and it has just started,you know he is not a top player,so do you risk the whole tournement on a 1/2 shot or fold and hope to catch him later
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2011
    you mean he has four to the flush off the flop, you holding A's.  The answers in the Q bud  64/36 in your favour.

    But I know what you mean.  Sometimes its grim to fade the bink.  I just run the numbers bud.  Look at pot stacks odds.  If its hugely disproportiante (like 200 in pot and call is 2900 off the flop) then an argument could be made for folding.  But if you know he's on the draw there I thnk you have to grit your teeth, make "HOLD" be your mantra Hevad Khan style and pray for the early double through for good position.

    I take it you called and lost though :p
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    dont fold. 2/1 is a huge edge
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  • LOL_RAISELOL_RAISE Member Posts: 2,188
    edited June 2011
    depends on tournament structure
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited June 2011
    An easy yes for me in nearly all situations, I might consider folding in a deep stack with a buy-in above my comfort level.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited June 2011
    lol similar to one i just posted but mine was vs good player so felt had to go for it :(
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  • pomfrittespomfrittes Member Posts: 2,981
    edited June 2011


     Very interesting spot this Andrew, i had a similar hand discussed by TK and JH a couple of months ago. The replies from everyone where the same CALL. However i am inclined to disagree in certain situations, especially early in a tournament.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    wow ye guys must be superb to pass up 2/1 edges
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  • BigBlusterBigBluster Member Posts: 1,075
    edited June 2011
    If there are say 100 players, let's say for instance you have a 1 in 50 chance of winning. If you double up, your chances of winning may be, what, 1 in 40 at best? Your odds of winning if you lose is clearly zero.
    Clear fold.

    In a 6-seater SnG it's a clear call.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: tournament:
    If there are say 100 players, let's say for instance you have a 1 in 50 chance of winning. If you double up, your chances of winning may be, what, 1 in 40 at best? Your odds of winning if you lose is clearly zero. Clear fold. In a 6-seater SnG it's a clear call.
    Posted by BigBluster
    while that all sounds logical written like that how far do we take this kind of thinking? What hands do we get it in with? Or do you just never get all in at this stage?

     How do we intend to build a stack?

    When do we change tactics?

    I cant see how we win the tournament without getting money in in these kind of spots
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  • SighKOSighKO Member Posts: 329
    edited June 2011


    Like the op needs advice lol

    I thought it was 6/4 not 2-1..... correct me if I'm wrong
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