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AA 10max missed value?

elldixon18elldixon18 Member Posts: 64
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic

Hi all first post in the clinic, just wondering about this jam!

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Jippa Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £9.20
elldixon18 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £23.60
deano611 Big blind  £0.20 £0.50 £2.98
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
captape16 Fold     
BATTSY64 All-in  £2.80 £3.30 £0.00
mattthoey Call  £2.80 £6.10 £38.41
deano611 Fold     
M247 Call  £2.80 £8.90 £60.94
dickieop04 Fold     
alanward Call  £2.80 £11.70 £9.64
munro283 Fold     
Jippa Fold     
elldixon18 All-in  £23.60 £35.30 £0.00
mattthoey Fold     
M247 Fold     
alanward Fold     
elldixon18 Unmatched bet  £21.00 £14.30

Comments

  • elldixon18elldixon18 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2011
    Bit of reasoning... with the size of the pot pre I was happy to take it down there and then. That said, maybe a reraise would be better but don't fancy going multiway - plus would making it £12/£15 just scream strength?

    Not too many reads on the table and players who'd already called, apart from the big stack who I'd got down as a loosey goosey!
  • PokerPaul2PokerPaul2 Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2011
    Think the shove is the right play here.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2011
    Why are you happy to take it down right now? :S

    Your re-raise is another 100xbb to the other players to call off.

    You can make it 6.95 or something, then shove any flop.

    I agree the shove is better than making it 12/15 though!!
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2011
    shove is bad - their are 2 deep stacks, raise to 7/8 quid, price them in and more than likely win a big pot. If you lose you lose, it's a cash game just reload! 
  • CodexCodex Member Posts: 211
    edited June 2011
    it depends, there are plenty of weaker hands that call the shove that you might not get paid off with on the flop


    its a choice between £7-9 and shove imo and given the shove is only 10x the current bet 4 handed i think its fine

    the last thing u want is 3 callers after a small raise - then u have a big pot you are odds against winning
  • leon621leon621 Member Posts: 266
    edited June 2011
    i think a couple of months ago you may have got a caller, however so many people have done this with AA over the last few months that players are starting to wise up to this little trick.
  • elldixon18elldixon18 Member Posts: 64
    edited June 2011

    Hi people ty for the replies and sound advice - couple of responses...

    To Paul : Cheers!

    To Dohhh : I just saw it as an easy £12 pickup against a random shorties jam. If I make it £7 and the table calls around again I thought it was asking for trouble if a coordinated board flops!  Call me a chicken I'll accept it!

    To Percival : I hate losing buy-ins and AA and KK are the hands that I usually get into most trouble with - be it cash or tournies.

    To Codex : You're thinking along the same lines as me :)  Don't think anyone had QQ or KK, so a pair of 10s or Js may call preflop if they're in a gambling mood puttin me on AK, whereas if the flop comes A high or K high they can get away from it.

    To Leon: Yeh fair does I'm wary of overshoves but against randomers in the evening it can sometimes pay off - if only it was a Friday/Saturday night instead of Monday!


  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2011
    If it was KK/QQ would shove as Ace could flop if you raised big but here I'd make it around £8-9 then never fold. :)
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