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Pretty easy deepstack fold right....?

AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic
£1/£2 cash table, 6 or 7 handed  I'm sat around £450.  Open for £7 UTG with AcJc, TAG BB calls from SB (£660ish), Lag calls from BB (£380ish)

£21 pot, flop AhKhJh.

SB checks, BB checks, I lead for £14, SB TAG muicks, BB LAG instantly makes it £130.  I've been pretty inactive, so I have to believe he knows I have a hand.  Trouble is he can easily do theis with  JxQh/Ax10h type hand, just looking to get it in and race.

I think for ages, do the whole show.  Its only an allin or fold decision really.  His bet is just too big, I've only invested marginally.  He either has a made hand (10Q or two hearts), his bet doesnt really give me the opportunity to fill up on value.  So I fold AJ face up.  Table mates call me an uber nit. 

My hand doesnt really play well against a c/r's range here, plus it felt like he wanted action.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2011

    Ugh.

    I don't agree it's all in or fold.....

    I would call or fold, I'd probably call, and call/put the rest in on blank turns.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011

    I cant get it to copy across but I got 47% equity on pokerstove against what I thought was reasonable range (a pretty bad one for you, you may be a little better), which I think means you can get it in. Reads on what his overbet means would be important. Im also not so sure you cant flat here, kinda sucks calling that big a raise though

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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: Pretty easy deepstack fold right....?:
    Ugh. I don't agree it's all in or fold..... I would call or fold, I'd probably call, and call/put the rest in on blank turns.
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    With a bet this size I'm only really thinking of playing for stacks bud, I cant really call the re raise hoping not see a range of turn cards, its too big a chunk of my stack IMO, but I could be wrong.

     I'm just not happy calling off that much to c/f turn/to still be drawing real slim against a made hand/or missing value when the turn bricks and we see four checks or a c/f by opponent.

    Plus if the turn bricks and he leads I have no more info than I did on flop.  I could still be drawing to a FH.

    I really dont feel like i can justify a peel here,  like I say, I could be wrong though.  Hated folding to him though.  It was the guy from the other hand I posted (the 2nd nut straight vs weak two pair A7) so i got it all in the end anywho :)
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    against that guy if I seen the other hand first there is no way I fold
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2011
    This hand was prior to the A7.  Which added to my belief that opponent didnt have KQ

    Thankfully I waited out opponent on this hand so long he agreed to show, showing 10Q for made nut straight, no heart.  So I couldnt believe in the other hand he could have struck gold again.

    Definately not the way I play the vulnerable nut straight, with the 3H board.  I knid of wanted to say to thim at the end of the session that how these two hands played might help his game. 

    He makes a vulnerable nut straight, massively overplaying it, forcing a fold and gaining the utter minimum.
    I make the nut straight and take everything in front of him, my folded hand being significacantly stronger than his was at any point when I felted him.

    But this would clearly have been terrible form, plus I was too busy stacking my chips :p
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