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Fold call or shove

Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Early in tourney have a very playable stack is it a fold or would you call 25% of stack or shove??
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Batkin88 Small blind  15.00 15.00 2225.00
swandolf Big blind  30.00 45.00 1450.00
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • J
     
aenoon Fold     
Josef_Gree Fold     
_player1 Raise  90.00 135.00 2300.00
FERN390 Call  90.00 225.00 1190.00
Batkin88 Raise  210.00 435.00 2015.00
swandolf Fold     
_player1_ Raise  600.00 1035.00 1700.00
FERN390 Fold     
Batkin88 Fold     
_player1_ Muck     
_payer1__ Win  570.00  2270.00
_player1__ Return  465.00
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2011
    This bet sizing would seriously worry me.  IMO your dominated or flipping.  Have to decide if you want to flip.  I dont mind a fold at all, good dicipline regardless.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2011
    your opponent must know you have strong hand 3-betting from the blinds, so for me he has to have QQ+ here, including AK. I don't mind the play, but personally i'd just call the raise pre and check out the flop, but don't think there's tooooo much wrong with this
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2011
    Ahh I'd hate this, they've made a standard 3x then you've made quite a weak 3bet to which he's put a proper daddy bet in. Being early I would probably take the same approach you have. Don't think calling is good as most flops will be check folded.
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited June 2011
    Im prob insta folding here if the villain is any good, if there bad im happy to get it in. Really villain dependent here imo

    Nice to see you back battykins where have you been, you well? x
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    If I was 3betting I make it 360 to go

    I dont really like 3b/f JJ oop 75bb deep readless.  I prob just flat the CO raise pre, if I raise Im prob getting it in. As your 3bet is so small it may be more profitable to fold than shove
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited June 2011
    What size 3 bet should i be putting here if 3 betting? 270+

    Young gun i have been on diff sites but thought it would be nice to come back to the community and play some tourny's again.
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  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2011
    Yep 270+ would be perfect.
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: Fold call or shove:
    What size 3 bet should i be putting here if 3 betting? 270+ Young gun i have been on diff sites but thought it would be nice to come back to the community and play some tourny's again.
    Posted by Batkin88
    My 3-bet sizes differ depending on what position i am on the table, in the SB i usually 3-bet more than i would if i were in position, so in this situation with a raise and call i'd make it atleast 325. You can 3-bet less in position, alteast 2.5X is fine
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: Fold call or shove:
    In Response to Re: Fold call or shove : My 3-bet sizes differ depending on what position i am on the table, in the SB i usually 3-bet more than i would if i were in position, so in this situation with a raise and call i'd make it atleast 325. You can 3-bet less in position, alteast 2.5X is fine
    Posted by percival09
    Cheers really helpful on my 3 betting play
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