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do i have to stack off here??

danny101danny101 Member Posts: 62
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Power_of_9 Sit out     
weegeomac Small blind  £0.02 £0.02 £3.99
riverya Big blind  £0.04 £0.06 £4.23
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • 4
     
danny101 Call  £0.04 £0.10 £3.86
weegeomac Call  £0.02 £0.12 £3.97
riverya Raise  £0.04 £0.16 £4.19
danny101 Call  £0.04 £0.20 £3.82
weegeomac Call  £0.04 £0.24 £3.93
Flop
   
  • 5
  • 4
  • A
     
weegeomac Check     
riverya Bet  £0.08 £0.32 £4.11
danny101 Raise  £0.28 £0.60 £3.54
weegeomac Fold     
riverya Raise  £0.40 £1.00 £3.71
danny101 All-in  £3.54 £4.54 £0.00
riverya Call  £3.34 £7.88 £0.37
riverya Show
  • 5
  • A
   
danny101 Show
  • A
  • 4
   
Turn
   
  • J
     
River
   
  • 3
     
riverya Win Two Pairs, Aces and 5s £7.28  £7.65

Comments

  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited June 2011
    simplest advice in the world. fold pre save the desison
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited June 2011
    I dont mind the call pre in cash.  Stacking off is player dependant.  Would he 3bet with Apic?  If so yes, if not, no.

    Dont really understand the 4bet jam though
  • bigandy18bigandy18 Member Posts: 85
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here??:
    simplest advice in the world. fold pre save the desison
    Posted by The_Don90
    Fold a5 suited 3 handed? Thats far far too weak. as played i'm all in on that flop at 4nl as well.
  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here??:
    simplest advice in the world. fold pre save the desison
    Posted by The_Don90
    Simplest advice in the world, if you're gona play this hand on the button in an unopened pot, raise.
  • jakallyjakally Member Posts: 421
    edited June 2011

    Don't fold a suited ace PF, on the button, in an unopened pot.... but don't limp it.

    Going broke on the flop is fine..... as played the opponent can have plenty of hands you are beating...  AK / AQ / A2 / A3 or a flush draw etc....

  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    openraise pre

    I would never fold flop
  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here??:
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here?? : Simplest advice in the world, if you're gona play this hand on the button in an unopened pot, raise.
    Posted by Mohican
    id usually agree with a number of the posts here about not folding A4 here but remember these NL4 guys just wont fold anything that we can beaqt. And post flop it gets tricky unless we fop our flush. Therefore i think folding i better at this level.
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited June 2011
    Snap fold pre for me, others say raise but from my experiance I click the check/fold button the second I see the hand saves a lot of hassle when post flop you're gonna have to cbet a lot with air and also can't get stacks in on Ace high flops like AK/AQ/AJ, flush draws may be flopped but very rarely.

    This hand is just a cooler with that flop.
  • CrunchybobCrunchybob Member Posts: 576
    edited June 2011
    If your going to play a4 suited then ur hoping to either hit a flush or 2 pair.

    u get the 2 pair on the flop..how can u not stack it off here??? u obv think ur ahead at this point.

    u were just ul..by sky bringing down an action flop.

    for the record id fold pre. but im too nitty.
  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited June 2011
    raise pre

    bet / stack off on flop

    also fwiw obv we dnt always nd2 hit 2pr/flush to win the hand
  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here??:
    In Response to Re: do i have to stack off here?? : id usually agree with a number of the posts here about not folding A4 here but remember these NL4 guys just wont fold anything that we can beaqt. And post flop it gets tricky unless we fop our flush. Therefore i think folding i better at this level.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Don't disagree with folding but if you'rre gonna play it in this spot a raise is a far better option than limping in???
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2011
    i'd open button, then Vbet, Vbet, Vbet and call any shove, just UL
  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited June 2011
    Yes you do you shouldn't be folding pre in an un opened pot regardless of levels. If you start folding that here when you move up the levels your going back down sooner than later, the flop is a horrible you can consider folding but i would be betting every card then snapping any shove so in answer to your question yes you do.
  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited June 2011
    Raise pre 20p, mainly cos its 3 handed and we have position aswell with a suited ace

    bet and stack of on flop never getting away once flopped 2 pair
  • corn_rat22corn_rat22 Member Posts: 144
    edited June 2011
    I raise pre, (definetly dont fold the button)
    i usually would go broke on the flop unless i have notes on the player, he could easily of limped with a low PP and floppped a set, its player dependant, i go broke and reload, UL

  • DrSharpDrSharp Member Posts: 1,213
    edited June 2011
    Fine. 3-handed, on the button. Should be a raise if your gonna play the hand. After that, it plays itself. Your hoping to hit 2 pair or a flush with this hand but its a perfect spot to squeeze pre flop. Dont mind getting it in on this flop, has to be good more than 50% of the time so it has to be profitable.
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