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Late stages of MTT - call or fold - hand id [386754606]

dtm75dtm75 Member Posts: 263
edited June 2011 in The Poker Clinic
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rawl Small blind   1250.00 1250.00 111150.06
xxx Big blind   2500.00 3750.00 51548.76
  Your hole cards
  • J
  • Q
     
bonnylad Fold        
pomfrittes Fold        
dtm75 Raise   6300.00 10050.00 53141.72
rawl Fold        
xxx Call   3800.00 13850.00 47748.76
Flop
   
  • 7
  • Q
  • 5
     
xxx Bet   5000.00 18850.00 42748.76
dtm75 Raise   22887.50 41737.50 30254.22
xxx Call   17887.50 59625.00 24861.26
Turn
   
  • K
     
xxx All-in   24861.26 84486.26 0.00
Winning this would have made me chip leader by a fair amount, xxx had been pretty aggro, but hadn't been to any showdowns, so I couldn't ascertain whether he kept having the goods.

Guess I would have got same information with a 15k re-raise. I've pretty much shut down after he's smoothed my re-raise of his small lead. Screams strength.

Thoughts?

Thanks, Dan
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited June 2011
    Pot committed old chap. You have to call.
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2011
    why are you raising top pair if you are shutting down if he calls?
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  • dtm75dtm75 Member Posts: 263
    edited June 2011
    Am assuming his lead, is to make me fold my 88, AJ type hands and he has nothing. Thought healthy raise from me would get the job done.  Maybe he has AK, but then wouldn't he shove pre? Maybe Kd10d, or he's suckered me in with bullets?

    Perhaps "shutting down" is the wrong phrase. "über wary" would be better. K is a scare card for me. 

    I think I've played it badly, regardless.  Didn't really want to check call through the streets tho.  Stuck hand here for advice, tend to be a non-believer of big stacks later on?

    - fold pre?
    - raise smaller on flop?
    - call turn?
    - fold turn? (see now that I was pot committed, but with 12.5 bigs, am not completely out)

    Cheers
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2011
    Just call it off.

    He could have Kx of diamonds, that would be annoying.


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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited June 2011
    Snap call after your mahousive raise on the flop youo can never fold here
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  • dtm75dtm75 Member Posts: 263
    edited June 2011
    In Response to Re: Late stages of MTT - call or fold - hand id [386754606]:
    mahousive raise
    lol

    ...coming to realise I may need to reign these in a bit.  Cheers YG
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited June 2011
    Its not bad if you put him on flush draw tbf but you have to call afterwards really as you have commited yourself
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  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2011
    i think he has J10 diamonds!
    your raise on the flop gives villain no fold equity, so you're folding out all his bluffs
    i call turn / he could have hit the K, he could have picked up additional outs with the K, either way with the money you've already invested in the pot i think mathematically you sorta have to call. 
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