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is it right to try to make your hand here??
danny101
Member Posts: 62
| danny101 | Small blind | £0.02 | £0.02 | £1.42 | |
| 424POKER42 | Big blind | £0.04 | £0.06 | £3.96 | |
| Your hole cards |
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| sortofblue | Raise | £0.08 | £0.14 | £1.25 | |
| Patching99 | Call | £0.08 | £0.22 | £5.41 | |
| jasp3315 | Call | £0.08 | £0.30 | £1.72 | |
| penningt05 | Fold | ||||
| danny101 | Call | £0.06 | £0.36 | £1.36 | |
| 424POKER42 | Call | £0.04 | £0.40 | £3.92 | |
| Flop | |||||
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| danny101 | Check | ||||
| 424POKER42 | Check | ||||
| sortofblue | Check | ||||
| Patching99 | Check | ||||
| jasp3315 | Bet | £0.20 | £0.60 | £1.52 | |
| danny101 | Call | £0.20 | £0.80 | £1.16 | |
| 424POKER42 | Fold | ||||
| sortofblue | Fold | ||||
| Patching99 | Fold | ||||
| Turn | |||||
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| danny101 | Check | ||||
| jasp3315 | Bet | £0.40 | £1.20 | £1.12 | |
| danny101 | Call | £0.40 | £1.60 | £0.76 | |
| River | |||||
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| danny101 | Check | ||||
| jasp3315 | All-in | £1.12 | £2.72 | £0.00 | |
| danny101 | Fold | ||||
| jasp3315 | Muck | ||||
| jasp3315 | Win | £1.48 | £1.48 | ||
| jasp3315 | Return | £1.12 | £0.12 | £2.60 | |
Comments
fold turn, same thing you dont have the odds
but since u called pre and flopped a double gutter (both to the nuts) and back door 2nd nut fd, and ur getting 3:1 immediate price i cant see why people are saying this is a fold on the flop. granted it does suck that ur relative position the the flop bettor is 1st and therefore u must act upon this bet before any1 else at the table (increasing the risk of being raised) but this is not a big enough factor to make calling a losing play.
gotta fold turn tho by the time u put this .40 in theres next to no money behind to win and ur immeditae price combined with that can not allow you to make money from calling.
I thought you only had a gutshot, with a double gutter you can prob justify calling flop. Fold turn though
Fold on the flop, poor implied odds, when you play these hands you need to make sure the odds are with you, otherwise could cost you alot of money in the long run.
i also missed the fact that you had a double gutter in which case the call on the flop is ok but def give up on the turn
i would still fold pre though as there are a lot of flops that could lead to trouble, say the flop is Q high, you could easily be dominated....folding pre saves yourself from awkward decisions imo
He has basically no fe at 4nl shallow multiway on this board, so getting it in is meh imo. He only needs to win about 2/3 pot more when he binks turn to justify calling flop which should be possible
Some of your outs our probably dirty five way.
Sit with a full buy in - You want to sit with the maximum possible so when you get a good starting hand or hit a flop you can win the maximum.
Fold Pre - IMO the way to beat this level and I have done it and still win here time and time again is to have a tight starting hand selection compared to everyone else. Everyone loves to see flops as cheap as they can with any two. Therefore by have a tighter preflop range you will save pennies like in the above hand but when you do hit you will be more likely to be ahead. When you think you are ahead just bet and bet, don't worry about folding out hands, if they have one they will pay you and if they dont you werent getting anything anyway so don't try and be clever. 95% are not watching what you are doing so playing tight won't mean you won't get action.
Fold Flop - Obviously we wouldn't be in this situation, but 5 handed drawing on a flushing board is not ideal. The more people that see the flop means its more likely that at least one has a flush draw . This means that the K clubs and 8 Clubs or whatever you needed to hit may trump your straight. By all means bet your draws but I wouldn't recommend chasing this one.
Fold Turn - As above.
Cheers Percival, look what you made me do.