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Thoughts Please!

Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
edited July 2011 in The Poker Clinic
This is from a bounty hunter, quite early on, didn't have any reads on the player.

What are your thoughts here? I know I was right to fold but I guess I just wanted someone to confirm it for me. I know checking on the turn really showed weakness but  just couldnt bet out on that board. Any thoughts about how I played the hand at all? Sadly I don't know what the other person had.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
Fitz833 Small blind   20.00 20.00 2072.50
LOGS Big blind   40.00 60.00 2777.50
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
WATERTAXI Fold        
mccaffer10 Fold        
Lambert180 Raise   200.00 260.00 2010.00
madphil Fold        
Fitz833 Fold        
LOGS Call   160.00 420.00 2617.50
Flop
   
  • 10
  • Q
  • J
     
LOGS Check        
Lambert180 Bet   420.00 840.00 1590.00
LOGS Call   420.00 1260.00 2197.50
Turn
   
  • K
     
LOGS Check        
Lambert180 Check        
River
   
  • 4
     
LOGS All-in   2197.50 3457.50 0.00
Lambert180 Fold        
LOGS Muck        
LOGS Win   1260.00   1260.00
LOGS Return   2197.50 0.00 3457.50
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited July 2011
    ugly but i fold.

    Nice bet size pre and flop.

    You give up when you know you cant win.

    well played hand bud
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  • corn_rat22corn_rat22 Member Posts: 144
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please!:
    ugly but i fold. Nice bet size pre and flop. You give up when you know you cant win. well played hand bud
    Posted by AMYBR

    ++++1
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2011
    I'd bet less on flop

    I might b/f that turn, but checking prob fine
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please!:
    I'd bet less on flop I might b/f that turn, but checking prob fine
    Posted by grantorino
    Well I figured it was a flop that hit ALOT of his range and I would be getting called with alot of hands here. Also, I don't want people drawing to the straight cheap.

    And to be fair, I did get called, so 90% of the time, i.e. when the K doesnt come on the turn, I'm happy with a call and could possibly be doubling up
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2011
    The main reason I would bet a bit less would be in the hope of inducing a raise. Also, depends how you play and doesnt matter much against fish,but if you cbet a lot pot is going to be pretty big bet, and I like to keep my sizing consistent 
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2011
    grontorino. I think b/f turn is woprst possible play. If im betting im stacking because once i bet im getting the odds to fill up. 

    Odd spot tbh. Solid fold.  
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2011
    Are we? not so sure. We are only about 20% to fill up, we only split at best if we hit a straight. Checking probably better anyway
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  • corn_rat22corn_rat22 Member Posts: 144
    edited July 2011
    I never check fold the turn
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  • The_Don90The_Don90 Member Posts: 9,814
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please!:
    Are we? not so sure. We are only about 20% to fill up, we only split at best if we hit a straight. Checking probably better anyway
    Posted by grantorino
    i agree with checkin being the best option.

    The only reason i think bet folding is bad is becauise of stack sizes aswell. we only have 2K back and a pot of 1.2K so once we bet even half pot we're commiting our stack to the pot. So say we bet 600 we have 15.k back with 1.8K in pot + our opponents shove. then you have BB;s to consider aswell and the structure of the tourny (which i dont know). In a sleeper i guess a bet fold isnt too bad, but considering its a Sky HH its defo not a sleeper.  

    River is wierd with his open shove. Alot depends on my mood and reads on villan as a result. however the fold is probably profitable against a random.
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited July 2011
    I shove flop in BH :) but well played
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  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please!:
    In Response to Re: Thoughts Please! : i agree with checkin being the best option. The only reason i think bet folding is bad is becauise of stack sizes aswell. we only have 2K back and a pot of 1.2K so once we bet even half pot we're commiting our stack to the pot. So say we bet 600 we have 15.k back with 1.8K in pot + our opponents shove. then you have BB;s to consider aswell and the structure of the tourny (which i dont know). In a sleeper i guess a bet fold isnt too bad, but considering its a Sky HH its defo not a sleeper.   River is wierd with his open shove. Alot depends on my mood and reads on villan as a result. however the fold is probably profitable against a random.
    Posted by The_Don90
    Dont know what you mean by a sleeper?

    You are prob right though, we would be getting at least 3/1, prob a bit more and people show up with really stupid stuff in BHs. Was just thinking lots of villains will flat 2 pair hands there and usually only raise the straight,
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