yeah, there are 2 reasons to raise For value, ie will be called/raised by worse As a bluff, to make better hands fold Ops raise on flop acheives neither of these so its bad. Raising for info is bad because it does the opposite of what it should- it makes better hands continue and worse hands fold Posted by grantorino
Essentially if you think your beat just fold don't raise Unless your raise is a bluff, but if you raise as a bluff and they raise you fold right ? So you can not raise fold as raise folding is so bad Unless it's meant as a bluff and your no way near pot stuck. Raising when you think you have the best hand is good ? but if someone then raises you can still fold if you re access
EMMMM Confused ? Only raise for value to get it in, or as an outright bluff/semi bluff Raising just for information is bad, the only info your going to get is bad info espcially if the guy is bluffing Or he could have a better hand, which is even worse info
In Response to Re: how would u play this hand and opinions on how a played it? : Essentially if you think your beat just fold don't raise Unless your raise is a bluff, but if you raise as a bluff and they raise you fold right ? So you can not raise fold as raise folding is so bad Unless it's meant as a bluff and your no way near pot stuck. Raising when you think you have the best hand is good ? but if someone then raises you can still fold if you re access EMMMM Confused ? Only raise for value to get it in, or as an outright bluff/semi bluff Raising just for information is bad, the only info your going to get is bad info espcially if the guy is bluffing Or he could have a better hand, which is even worse info SWEET GAME INTI BRUV Posted by rancid
You can value bet and fold to a raise if you are think he flats more often with a range you beat than he raises and his raising range beats you. In a spot like the one here though generally villains are more likely to shove than flat and in a lot of cases their flatting range may be as strong as their raising range , so imo raise/folding just turns our hand into a bluff. This is why raise/folding is not a line I like taking when I have a strong hand without very good reads on villain
Your last few sentences on raising for info are correct you always get the wrong info
ok guys thanks for advice again a personally think im beat in this spot maybe should not have re re raised on the flop but we all mistakes lol. Posted by liamboi11
You may well be beat at the point you folded. If you are though your raise makes no sense unless you think he flats lots with worse
Once he raises on flop, you have 3 options, fold, call or raise intending to get it in if reraised. But raise/folding here is just bad poker imo
i thought he would either call or fold with ma last raise with hands like aj kj maybe qq or kk but think he 3 bets them pre flop and regards to the raise folding is bad do u not think it is better to lose the amount a did than ma whole stack when i know for sure he is beatin ma aces and normally wen i do put that last raise im callin it off but just know for sure againist this opponent and in that spot he had me beat lol
without specific reads that he gets super attached to tp you should fold to the cold 3 bet, he shows epic strength doing this if you say he hasnt got out of line at all its unlikely he plays AJ like this
if you're confident he can get attached to tp and plays like this i think flatting his 3 bet would be the best option
I'd open £1.20 with early limper, 80p is not enough!
3 handed on that flop we should be ahead, Good re-raise i'd prob just call after you get min re-raised as we have position and im still pretty confident im ahead but bit of pot control. i'd probably get in most turns unless villain is solid and doesn't overplay TPGK
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Essentially if you think your beat just fold don't raise
EMMMM Confused ? Only raise for value to get it in, or as an outright bluff/semi bluff
Raising just for information is bad, the only info your going to get is bad info espcially if the guy is bluffing
Or he could have a better hand, which is even worse info
SWEET GAME INTI BRUV
Your last few sentences on raising for info are correct you always get the wrong info
Once he raises on flop, you have 3 options, fold, call or raise intending to get it in if reraised. But raise/folding here is just bad poker imo
3 handed on that flop we should be ahead, Good re-raise i'd prob just call after you get min re-raised as we have position and im still pretty confident im ahead but bit of pot control. i'd probably get in most turns unless villain is solid and doesn't overplay TPGK