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call or fold?

hurst05hurst05 Member Posts: 1,567
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
Ive been 3 betting alot of hands in the session vs everyone not just this opponent so i think he can be calling here pre-flop perhaps wider than usual. Notes, oppo pretty tight-ish. he usually 4 bets AK/AA/KK/QQ but could be trapping as i have been 3 betting alot. calling range i think would be pairs upto and including JJ, Suited connectors and perhaps even suited gappers as i said my image was very LAG.

the question is do i call the shove, he played the hand very much how id expect someone to play a set. and 99/JJ/44 are in his range here, i think 77 is unlikely as he is pretty passive when he has completely bricked the flop, especially in 3 bet pots. 810 is definately in his calling range as he does btn raise suited connectors/gappers. and the flop is a good flop for that hand. however i think he elects to call having binked the dream card on the turn instead of shoving. i could easily be barelling worse than AA here having done so in the past.

Hand History #396989918 (15:06 29/07/2011)

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
rb1983 Small blind   £0.25 £0.25 £56.29
hurst05 Big blind   £0.50 £0.75 £63.88
  Your hole cards
  • A
  • A
     
Nosebleed_ Fold        
stien Fold        
JimiAls1 Fold        
:(
Raise   £1.50 £2.25 £57.85
rb1983 Call   £1.25 £3.50 £55.04
hurst05 Raise   £5.00 £8.50 £58.88
:( Call   £4.00 £12.50 £53.85
rb1983 Fold        
Flop
   
  • 9
  • J
  • 4
     
hurst05 Bet   £6.50 £19.00 £52.38
:( Call   £6.50 £25.50 £47.35
Turn
   
  • 7
     
hurst05 Bet   £14.00 £39.50 £38.38
:( All-in   £47.35 £86.85 £0.00
hurst05 ??????
       
           
           
           

Comments

  • CodexCodex Member Posts: 211
    edited July 2011
    given your prior aggression i'm more inclined to call - ie there is no real reason for him to put you on an overpair

    if he's not assuming you're light due to prior aggression, it looks very much like a set - if you think he would have 3 bet QQ and KK pre, i think its a fold
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited July 2011

    clear call imo, especially given how you have been playing

  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2011
    I'd bet more on flop bout £9.

    Turn I'm not folding either.
  • N1CKN1CK Member Posts: 1,453
    edited July 2011
    you can beat 88 1010
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited July 2011
    Given your notes on the villain i'd be folding here.

    It screams of a set or a straight.
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited July 2011
    it really depends who it is, but you beat KK QQ and AJ/KJ.

    I call tho, and whoever said bet more on the flop, the flop bet is fine.
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: call or fold?:
    it really depends who it is, but you beat KK QQ and AJ/KJ. I call tho, and whoever said bet more on the flop, the flop bet is fine.
    Posted by pryce6
    I said bet more on flop as simply bet more = win more. :)
  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: call or fold?:
    Given your notes on the villain i'd be folding here. It screams of a set or a straight.
    Posted by AcidMan27
    I don't think we're deep enough for it to scream of these holdings.  Our last bet has effectively drawn a line in te sand for the villian to be willing to commit their stack either now or on the river.  Yes these holdings do turn up a significant amount, but so does plenty that we beat.  I think it's a call with the image we have.  And yes the flop bet is fine IMO.
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited July 2011
    In Response to Re: call or fold?:
    In Response to Re: call or fold? : I said bet more on flop as simply bet more = win more. :)
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Not rly.
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited July 2011
    just call init - he so could have KK
    He could be so easily flatting your 3 bet with KK, trapping your active self )

    Could be set J's or 9's, you can't fold though can you ?

    You look like me Pryce :S
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited July 2011
    At NL4 is does. :)
  • AcidMan27AcidMan27 Member Posts: 3,752
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: call or fold?:
    In Response to Re: call or fold? : I don't think we're deep enough for it to scream of these holdings.  Our last bet has effectively drawn a line in te sand for the villian to be willing to commit their stack either now or on the river.  Yes these holdings do turn up a significant amount, but so does plenty that we beat.  I think it's a call with the image we have.  And yes the flop bet is fine IMO.
    Posted by TommyD
    Great point, that's something I probably don't think of enough when i'm playing.


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