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What would you do?

GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
edited August 2011 in The Poker Clinic
£1:10 DS. 176 runners.  Was lying 11/136. 

Hadn't been at table long so no reads, other than V1 & V2 seemed to be bullying the smaller stacks, the other 3 stacks were less than 5k iirc.
PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
V1 Small blind  50.00 50.00 16935.00
V2 Big blind  100.00 150.00 15915.00
  Your hole cards
  • Q
  • K
     
Theredcat Fold     
Glenelg Raise  200.00 350.00 10960.00
lisar83 Fold     
scouse_red Fold     
V1Raise  550.00 900.00 16385.00
V2 Fold     
Glenelg Call  400.00 1300.00 10560.00
Flop
   
  • J
  • 7
  • 3
     
V1 Bet  1300.00 2600.00 15085.00
Glenelg Call  1300.00 3900.00 9260.00
Turn
   
  • J
     
V1 Check     
Glenelg Bet  3900.00 7800.00 5360.00
V1 Raise  7800.00 15600.00 7285.00
Glenelg ??     
      

Comments

  • PiAnOpLaYaPiAnOpLaYa Member Posts: 554
    edited August 2011
    not min raise PF
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited August 2011
    In Response to Re: What would you do?:
    not min raise PF
    Posted by PiAnOpLaYa
    I was hoping no-one would spot that! LOL 
    I was gonna make it 800/1000 but don't know wtf came over me!
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited August 2011
    i'd raise bigger pre at this stage in tourney, min raise in terms of current stack sizes means you're likely to get a few callers, especially in a micro stakes tournament where the standard of play won't be too high
    readless i'd probz fold to 3bet, you're IP but i think it's more profitable to fold with no reads

    on flop i don't mind the call, raising is an option aswell .. readless it's difficult to put villain on hand but pot size bet indicates strength more often than not

    turn i don't like the pot size bet, you can bet around 2K and find out the same answer and then make a fold to a shove because you won't be getting the right odds, taking a free card would be ok aswell... as played, i think it's a close one in terms of whether it's mathematically correct, you're getting around 3/1 on your money and you've put about half of your stack in the middle, saying that i doubt your Q is good, K might be, so you probz only have 9-12 outs which makes it a fold imo with 53BB!
  • kidwizzz78kidwizzz78 Member Posts: 158
    edited August 2011
    If your gunna raise it up pre make it around 400 , when he checks turn i dont mind i check behind 2bh but if your gunna bet id fire out 2/3 pot rather than pot as i think that looks quite week if i must say so and if you had jack i think youd be milking him rather than betitng as heavy as you are , i think you gotta fold when he min raises you you stil have jus tover 5k left thats 50BB stil a good stack to play with especially when blinds stil realtivly small
  • Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
    edited August 2011
    Pre I make it 250-300.

    After reraise pre I snap fold.

    As played on flop after the pot bet I might consider just folding as can't see him folding after making that bet. If I didn't fold I would probably shove with FD plus possible overs.

    On turn after being checked to, take the free card imo. You pot bet here is very strange as you're bluffing sp 2k gets same answer. Of course when he minraises you just fold.
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited August 2011

    Minraising is bad this deep imo when you are likely going to end up playing multiway and oop. I make it 400, definitely 3x it.

    Any reads? When you say villains are bullying have they being 3betting much? I prob fold without a read on what they 3bet and how they play postflop. Calling may be ok, but readless you are going to fold to a cbet lots and also be dominated a decent amount of the time you hit, which means you have RIO issues here. Personally I think if you call here you need to float or bluffraise some flops and I hate doing that without a decent read

    Flat flop is ok ip imo, you could raise, but that pot size cbet is scary. Turn is a fold

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